<div>Dear Mr. Hankel, </div>
<div> I had already reported that there was a firm in India, which constructed biogas plants of this type. The figures calculated from the data presented by the firm showed that it took 2.5 kg dung to generate 1 cubic meter of biogas. Based on this calculation, one would get about 400 cubic meters of biogas from 1000 kg dung . This is also an unbelievably high value. The firm recommends emptying and refilling the digester once every 4 to 5 months and not 6 months. </div>
<div>I think that the dung used in the biogas plant in Centre of Science for Villages in Wardha could have been stored outside over a certain period of time, so that it lost some moisture. Secondly, when the dung is collected from the stall, it also contains a certain quantity of straw and fodder residues. I don't think that it was accurately weighed before filling it into the biogas plant. The 1000 kg weight of dung reported to us was an approximation, based on the size of the digester tank. <br>
Yours</div>
<div>A.D.Karve</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:21 PM, klauspeter Hankel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kapehankel@gmx.de">kapehankel@gmx.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">I suggest, please calculate based on ...<br>indian bovine manure: 18% DS, 83% vDS, 300 l biogas/kgvDS, 60% CH4<br>
<br>and better check the DS and also sometimes the vDS (because of sand and soil, if you buy by weight)<br><br>warm regards / mit herzlichen Gruessen<br><br>Klaus Peter Hankel<br><br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:04:35 +0530<br>
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<br>Dear All ,<br><br>540 M3 from 1000 Kg of cow dung ?<br>Is it possible that there is an error in measurement ? OR an enthusiastic<br>overstatement by the gentleman ?<br>( If cow dung or the flora present in /alongwith it had so much of energy<br>
value ,,,, it would create so many possibilities )<br><br>Regards,<br>Avadhut Bapat<br><br><br><br>On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Markus Schlattmann<br><<a href="mailto:firmen@schlattmann.de">firmen@schlattmann.de</a>>wrote:<br>
<br>> Hi,<br>><br>> when you compare the yields based on fresh mass, are you sure you're<br>> talking about the same "dung"?<br>><br>> Here in Central Europe cattle often are kept in stables leading to liquid<br>
> (~8%TS) manure.<br>> In India perhaps "dung" is "dried dung"?<br>> Generally, for comapring gas yields of substrates it's better to compare<br>> gas yields based on VS, not fresh matter, since water content may vary a<br>
> lot.<br>><br>> I can't think that there's a production of 18 times more biogas if we are<br>> talking about comparable dung. You may calculate/estimate a C-Balance. If<br>> there's one loading, you can't get more C in CH4/CO2 out of the system than<br>
> you have put into it with the substrate/inoculum in the beginning.<br>><br>> Markus Schlattmann<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Digestion mailing list<br><br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>
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<br>for more information about digestion, see<br>Beginner's Guide to Biogas<br><a href="http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/" target="_blank">http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/</a><br>and the Biogas Wiki <a href="http://biogas.wikispaces.com/" target="_blank">http://biogas.wikispaces.com/</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>***<br>Dr. A.D. Karve<br>President, Appropriate Rural Technology Institute (ARTI)<br><br>*Please change my email address in your records to: <a href="mailto:adkarve@gmail.com">adkarve@gmail.com</a> *<br>
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