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Bennett, Hello,<br>
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There have been systems that do all that you have suggested - animal
dung in biogas plant, effluent to ponds and compost, growth of
duckweed and other crops, methane running engine, with engine
coolant heating plant, electricity used to run system. The only
thing that you have left out is fish ponds. People have been
advocating such ideas since the 1980s, especially in places such as
China. <br>
<br>
However, while most of these systems have been very successful at an
experimental level, but have proved difficult to popularise. Such an
integrated farming system relies on all the components running
properly and problems with one component (e.g. the engine) upsets
the whole system. <br>
<br>
Greenfinch Ltd in the UK had a biogas plant running on food wastes
in the 1990s, with the liquid effluent used to grow duckweed, which
fed fast growing talapia fish. They had also started to used the
solid compost for vermiculture. They now have a commercial food
waste plant running in Ludlow in the West of the UK, but this does
not include the duckweed and fish aspects. The liquid is recycled
through the plant, while the solids are composted elsewhere. The
plant does generate about 500 kW of electricity, which is delivered
to the power grid. The heat from the engines is used for the biogas
plant and to pasteurise the compost.<br>
<br>
So, your idea is not far out.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
David F<br>
<br>
On 19/11/2010 02:44, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bennett@frognet.net">bennett@frognet.net</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">As a result some people see AD as "biogas", some as "Carbon", some as
"waste disposal", some as "pathogen reduction" and some as "fertiliser".
What we really need to do is see anaerobic digestion as all of the above
and as part of a larger system. This involves a move away from the typical
Western "linear" approach (of extract, use, discard) to a more cyclic
approach (we have a Reuse, Recycle, Reduce slogan going around, sometimes
with a 4th R that I can't remember). I know some areas have been doing
this for centuries, and even Westerners used to be better at it (before
coal and oil!).
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<pre wrap="">Okay... since we're on a roll here, tell me if you think a scenario
similar to the following sounds TOO FAR OUT:
animal manure goes into an in-ground plug/flow digester;
spent digestate goes to both sediment pond and aerobic compost pile;
sediment pond produces duckweed and nutrient for hydroponic grow beds;
duckweed is harvested and dried for animal feed;
methane produced runs an engine;
engine coolant keeps digester warm (radiator coils wrap around digester);
engine runs generator to produce electricity;
electricity lights and runs pumps for hydro
.... what have I forgotten?
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