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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>On the ranch where I lived as a child: the water
system was a stream from the top of a small mountain. We placed
a black</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>poly plastic pipe in the water at the top and ran
it to a tank at the house near the bottom of the mountain.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel> The excess water ran to </FONT><FONT size=2
face=Corbel>the pond. We were repairing the tank one summer (years later) and
turned the valve</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>at the bottom the black pipe line off ,for
the first time. In a short time the valve blew off. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>It gave me the idea to hooking the line directly
to the house and eliminating the water pressure pump. The water
lines</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>continued to burst from the water pressure. It
turned out the water was over 100PSI and the water heater was</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>always full of high pressure air. As the water was
pulled into the pipe at the top by the siphoning action of water
falling</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>due to gravity (energy source), it was
pulling in air. As the air and water (liquid) mixture traveled down the
pipe the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>weight of the water compressed </FONT><FONT size=2
face=Corbel>the air (the gas). I eventually placed pressure reducing valves in
the plastic line.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>The old rock quarry up the canyon from the
house used steam to power the saws and drills.I originally put an
old steam </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>tank in the pipe to remove </FONT><FONT
size=2 face=Corbel>the air but the pressure pop off kept blowing. I
rebuild one of the old flywheels that ran the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>belt saws and hooked it to the compressed air
coming from the steam tank. I thought I would start the quarry</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>and get rich but that never paid off. I found an
old electric generator and hooked it to the belt and we had
nearly</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>free electricity. One idea lead to an other
and several things developed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>This all took years but it resulted in a lot of
research and a few more ideas of on gravity, hydraulic pressure and
how</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>it could be used. The world is full of old mines
and mountains. Finding the liquid is a problem. You do not always
have</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>water at the top of a mountain or at a mine
opening. Developing better ways to separate the liquid form the Gas
has</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>been a long process. You must be in
the right place to apply the process. There are many versions and
variations</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>that can be applied to many energy dependant
systems. We used this process to pump water out of a flooded mine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>Turns out old fashioned water pumps that ran on
steam are very practical to run on compressed air.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>Brent</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=alex@sistemabiobolsa.com
href="mailto:alex@sistemabiobolsa.com">Alexander Eaton</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=digestion@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:digestion@lists.bioenergylists.org">For Discussion of Anaerobic
Digestion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:25
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Digestion] Compressing of
biogas</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>snip</FONT><BR></DIV>I am afraid I am a bit lost
regarding the shaft compression method you are discussing here. In what
situation would one have a large shaft available? How are you mixing the
gas and liquid with no energy? How are you then separating them
effectively? Is this something that you are using commonly? I am
having trouble understanding how this is all being fed into a pipe, with no
gas leaks, and then the gas is being forced downward, somehow in sustained
suspension in the liquid. How is this "feeding" with no energy?
What liquid are you using? How do you have two power sources? Are
you somehow capturing the kinetic energy of the liquid in a turbine?
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