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    Yes, I can totally agree on that. You will always need active
    moderation. Or you will get spam, advertisments, robots and other
    bad stuff.<br>
    If you have a board with moreand more users you will also have to
    reply to more and more private messages, e-mails and requests you
    get.<br>
    And this may take a lot of time.<br>
    <br>
    Markus<br>
    <br>
    Am 30.11.2010 21:56, schrieb Tom Miles:
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        <p><span>Our experience with a Spanish version of the biomass
            cooking stoves group is that it has been difficult to find a
            motivated moderator for the group. Some of us who speak
            fluent Spanish just don't have the time to moderate the
            group. Without a moderator discussions degenerate. As Paul
            knows it can take 5 to 6 hours a week or more to be an
            active moderator. </span></p>
        <p><span>   </span></p>
        <p><span>Tom Miles </span></p>
        <p><span><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.bioenergylists.org">www.bioenergylists.org</a> </span></p>
        <p><span> </span></p>
        <p><span>   </span></p>
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          <p><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:digestion-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">digestion-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>
              [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:digestion-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">mailto:digestion-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] <b>On
                Behalf Of </b>Alexander Eaton<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:47 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> For Discussion of Anaerobic Digestion<br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Digestion] Biogas Groups </span></p>
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        <p>   </p>
        <p>Thanks Marcus, <br>
          <br>
          We also fear that automated translations are not sufficient
          for this type of discussion, but we may have a bit of funding
          for summarized translation as necessary.  Since Spanish is now
          the second most spoken language, we feel like it would be
          appropriate for this type of discussion in that language to
          serve this large population.  English is a good catch all for
          the scientific community, but I can imagine that access to
          German and Chinese discussions on the theme would be useful. 
          We are lucky that our colleagues from India speak English!  We
          will be working on this theme further if anyone has any ideas
          or is interested in participating.  <br>
          <br>
          Saludos,<br>
          <br>
          Alex  </p>
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          <p>On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Markus Schlattmann <<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:firmen@schlattmann.de">firmen@schlattmann.de</a>>
            wrote: </p>
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            <p>HI Alex, </p>
            <div>
              <p><br>
                <br>
                <br>
              </p>
              <p>Markus, do you ever post across the languages between
                the German and English discussions? Of all the
                discussion groups I have found, this seems to be the
                most comprehensive and active.  </p>
              <p>   </p>
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            <p>No, there's no cross-posting between my german and
              english language boards. They are each independent boards.
              Some years ago I also have set up a French and Hungarian
              language board with help of users speaking those
              languages, but there was almost no traffic. So I decided
              to just keep the german and english language boards only.<br>
              <br>
              It's quite ease to set up a group or discussion board but
              it's permanent work to keep it running if it's still small
              and not well known. Since I started my site in 2004  it
              now will have about 1.600.000 page views generated by
              about 165.000 visits (this year 2010, robots are not
              counted).<br>
              So now it's quite well known in Germany and there are new
              postings almost every day. But it will take a lot of
              additional work to get some more action in the other areas
              and english language boards.<br>
              <br>
              If I would translate each posting manually => this
              would be too much work (I also have a "normal" job to do
              at a biogas company :) ).<br>
              And I think automated translation and cross-posting
              between my boards would not be a very good idea, since the
              quality of translations may be very wrong and also the
              topic interests between the english language board users
              and german board users are quite different. <br>
              <span><br>
                Markus</span> </p>
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                <p><br>
                  Alex <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                </p>
                <div>
                  <p>On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Markus Schlattmann
                    <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:firmen@schlattmann.de">firmen@schlattmann.de</a>>
                    wrote: </p>
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                    <p>There's also a biogas group on Facebook (not very
                      active) and my own discussion boards on <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://schlattmann.de">schlattmann.de</a>
                      (german: very active, english: still not very
                      active).<br>
                      <br>
                      Markus<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                       Am 30.11.2010 16:20, schrieb Anand Karve: </p>
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                            <p>Dear Hooroo, </p>
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                          <div>
                            <p>I am the member of only this one group. </p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p>Yours </p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p>A.D.Karve </p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p>On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:21 PM,
                              Mattocks, Richard <<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:Richard.Mattocks@veoliawater.com">Richard.Mattocks@veoliawater.com</a>>
                              wrote: </p>
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                                <p>That was easy. Might you share
                                  contact info for the org’s? </p>
                                <p>  </p>
                                <p>Thanks for all your work. </p>
                                <p>  </p>
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                                        <p>Richard </p>
                                        <p>  </p>
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                                  <p><b>From: </b><a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:digestion-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">digestion-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>
                                    [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:digestion-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">digestion-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>]
                                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Harris<br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 29,
                                    2010 9:23 PM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b> 'For Discussion of
                                    Anaerobic Digestion'<br>
                                    <b>Subject:</b> [Digestion] Biogas
                                    Groups </p>
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                                <p>  </p>
                                <p><span lang="EN-AU">G’day All,</span><span
                                    lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
                                <p><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                                    lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
                                <p><span lang="EN-AU">As the number of
                                    Anaerobic Digestion/Biogas
                                    Discussion forums grows I thought it
                                    would be interesting to see who is a
                                    member of what. I have set up a one
                                    question survey where you can click
                                    on the appropriate lists (or add any
                                    that I have not found yet!).</span><span
                                    lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
                                <p><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                                    lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
                                <p><span lang="EN-AU">Please participate
                                    in the survey at <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/ZBCWSH7">http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/ZBCWSH7</a>
                                    and I will publish the results for
                                    your enlightenment.</span><span
                                    lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
                                <p><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                                    lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
                                <p><span lang="EN-AU">Happy digesting,</span><span
                                    lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
                                <p><span lang="EN-AU">HOOROO</span><span
                                    lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
                                <p><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                                    lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
                                <p><span lang="EN-AU">Mr. Paul Harris,
                                    Room S116b, Waite Main Building
                                    Faculty of Sciences, The  University
                                    of Adelaide, Waite Campus, PMB 1,
                                    Glen Osmond SA 5064 Ph    : +61 8
                                    8303 7880      Fax   :
                                    +61 8 8303 4386 <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                      href="http://www.adelaide.edu.au/directory/paul.harris">http://www.adelaide.edu.au/directory/paul.harris</a></span><span
                                    lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
                                <p><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span
                                    lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
                                <p><span lang="EN-AU">CRICOS Provider
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_______________________________________________<br>
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                              <br>
                              for more information about digestion, see<br>
                              Beginner's Guide to Biogas<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/">http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/</a><br>
                              and the Biogas Wiki <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://biogas.wikispaces.com/">http://biogas.wikispaces.com/</a><br>
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                          <pre>    </pre>
                          <pre>_______________________________________________  </pre>
                          <pre>Digestion mailing list  </pre>
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                          <pre>   </pre>
                          <pre>for more information about digestion, see  </pre>
                          <pre>Beginner's Guide to Biogas  </pre>
                          <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/">http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/</a>  </pre>
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                    <pre>Mit freundlichen Grüßen  </pre>
                    <pre>Markus Schlattmann  </pre>
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                    <pre>   </pre>
                    <pre>Dipl.-Ing. agr. Markus Schlattmann  </pre>
                    <pre>Grünseiboldsdorfer Weg 5  </pre>
                    <pre>85416 Langenbach  </pre>
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                      href="http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/">http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/</a><br>
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                      href="http://biogas.wikispaces.com/">http://biogas.wikispaces.com/</a><br>
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                  <br>
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                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.irrimexico.org">www.irrimexico.org</a><br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://www.redbiolac.org">www.redbiolac.org</a>
                </p>
                <pre>   </pre>
                <pre>_______________________________________________  </pre>
                <pre>Digestion mailing list  </pre>
                <pre>   </pre>
                <pre>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address  </pre>
                <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Digestion@bioenergylists.org">Digestion@bioenergylists.org</a>  </pre>
                <pre>   </pre>
                <pre>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page  </pre>
                <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org</a>  </pre>
                <pre>   </pre>
                <pre>for more information about digestion, see  </pre>
                <pre>Beginner's Guide to Biogas  </pre>
                <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/">http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/</a>  </pre>
                <pre>and the Biogas Wiki <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://biogas.wikispaces.com/">http://biogas.wikispaces.com/</a>  </pre>
                <pre>   </pre>
                <p><br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                </p>
                <pre>--   </pre>
                <pre>   </pre>
                <pre>Mit freundlichen Grüßen,  </pre>
                <pre>Markus Schlattmann  </pre>
                <pre>   </pre>
                <pre>--------------------------------------  </pre>
                <pre>schlattmann sustainables  </pre>
                <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://schlattmann.de">schlattmann.de</a>  </pre>
                <pre>   </pre>
                <pre>Dipl.-Ing. agr. Markus Schlattmann  </pre>
                <pre>Grünseiboldsdorfer Weg 5  </pre>
                <pre>85416 Langenbach  </pre>
                <pre>   </pre>
                <pre>Tel.: +49 (0)8761 72162-60  </pre>
                <pre>Fax.: +49 (0)8761 72162-61  </pre>
                <pre>   </pre>
                <pre>E-Mail: firmen@schlattmann de  </pre>
                <pre>Web:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.schlattmann.de">www.schlattmann.de</a>  </pre>
                <pre>-------------------------------------  </pre>
                <pre>   </pre>
                <pre>Die Informationen in dieser E-Mail und im Anhang sind vertraulich und  </pre>
                <pre>nur für den/die benannten Empfänger bestimmt. Öffnen, Nutzen oder  </pre>
                <pre>Verbreiten durch unautorisierte Personen ist untersagt. Falls Sie nicht  </pre>
                <pre>der Empfänger oder eine entsprechend autorisierte Person sind,  </pre>
                <pre>informieren Sie bitte den Absender und vernichten Sie die Nachricht.  </pre>
                <pre>   </pre>
                <pre>   </pre>
                <pre>The information in this email and in any attachment is confidential and  </pre>
                <pre>intended only for the attention and use of the recipient(s) as  </pre>
                <pre>addressed. It must not be disclosed, used or disseminated by any  </pre>
                <pre>unauthorized person. If you are not the intended recipient or  </pre>
                <pre>accordingly authorized, please contact the sender and delete the  </pre>
                <pre>message.  </pre>
                <pre>   </pre>
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            </div>
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          <p><br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            Digestion mailing list<br>
            <br>
            to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:Digestion@bioenergylists.org">Digestion@bioenergylists.org</a><br>
            <br>
            to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
            <br>
            for more information about digestion, see<br>
            Beginner's Guide to Biogas<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/">http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/</a><br>
            and the Biogas Wiki <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://biogas.wikispaces.com/">http://biogas.wikispaces.com/</a><br>
            <br>
          </p>
        </div>
        <p><br>
          <br>
          <br>
          -- <br>
          Alexander Eaton<br>
          Sistema Biobolsa<br>
          IRRI-Mexico<br>
          RedBioLAC<br>
          <br>
          Mex cel: (55) 11522786<br>
          US cel: 970 275 4505<br>
          <br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:alex@irrimexico.org">alex@irrimexico.org</a><br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:alex@sistemabiobolsa.com">alex@sistemabiobolsa.com</a><br>
          <br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://sistemabiobolsa.com">sistemabiobolsa.com</a><br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.irrimexico.org">www.irrimexico.org</a><br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.redbiolac.org">www.redbiolac.org</a>
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_______________________________________________
Digestion mailing list

to Send a Message to the list, use the email address
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Digestion@bioenergylists.org">Digestion@bioenergylists.org</a>

to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/digestion_lists.bioenergylists.org</a>

for more information about digestion, see
Beginner's Guide to Biogas
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/">http://www.adelaide.edu.au/biogas/</a>
and the Biogas Wiki <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://biogas.wikispaces.com/">http://biogas.wikispaces.com/</a>

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Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Markus Schlattmann

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schlattmann sustainables
schlattmann.de

Dipl.-Ing. agr. Markus Schlattmann
Grünseiboldsdorfer Weg 5
85416 Langenbach

Tel.: +49 (0)8761 72162-60
Fax.: +49 (0)8761 72162-61

E-Mail: firmen@schlattmann de
Web:www.schlattmann.de
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Die Informationen in dieser E-Mail und im Anhang sind vertraulich und
nur für den/die benannten Empfänger bestimmt. Öffnen, Nutzen oder
Verbreiten durch unautorisierte Personen ist untersagt. Falls Sie nicht
der Empfänger oder eine entsprechend autorisierte Person sind,
informieren Sie bitte den Absender und vernichten Sie die Nachricht.


The information in this email and in any attachment is confidential and
intended only for the attention and use of the recipient(s) as
addressed. It must not be disclosed, used or disseminated by any
unauthorized person. If you are not the intended recipient or
accordingly authorized, please contact the sender and delete the
message.

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