Thanks Marcus for the additional thoughts. I think we may be able to avoid this issues bu summarizing questions and responses, and attempting to outline differing thoughts or conflicts surrounding certain issues. As I understand it, anything I post to this forum is public, and aside from egregious plagiary or slander, recycling this information would be OK. I do understand your concerns regarding attribution, or directly quoting anyone in a translation situation. This may warrant further discussion, and there will likely be some trial and error. <br>
<br>Saludos,<br><br>Alex <br><br> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Markus Schlattmann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:firmen@schlattmann.de">firmen@schlattmann.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Hi Alex,<br>
<br>
some other problems I just became aware of after thinking a few
minutes about this translation issue: <br>
It may be a little bit complicated getting agreements for copying
and translation (especially if this must be done with every single
user of a list or a board) and giving source information.<br>
It also will be diffilcult managing the translation of replies to
the original user in the language of the original posting.<br>
Direct private messages and requests to the original poster will
nearly become impossible.<br>
<br>
Markus<br>
<br>
his posting is somewhere * how are is the user treated<br>
<br>
Am 30.11.2010 21:46, schrieb Alexander Eaton:
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite">
Thanks Marcus, <br>
<br>
We also fear that automated translations are not sufficient for
this type of discussion, but we may have a bit of funding for
summarized translation as necessary. Since Spanish is now the
second most spoken language, we feel like it would be appropriate
for this type of discussion in that language to serve this large
population. English is a good catch all for the scientific
community, but I can imagine that access to German and Chinese
discussions on the theme would be useful. We are lucky that our
colleagues from India speak English! We will be working on this
theme further if anyone has any ideas or is interested in
participating. <br>
<br>
Saludos,<br>
<br>
Alex <br>
<br>
<div>On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Markus Schlattmann <span><<a href="mailto:firmen@schlattmann.de" target="_blank">firmen@schlattmann.de</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div> HI Alex,
<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Markus, do you ever post across
the languages between the German and English
discussions? Of all the discussion groups I have found,
this seems to be the most comprehensive and active. <br>
<br>
</blockquote>
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No, there's no cross-posting between my german and english
language boards. They are each independent boards. Some
years ago I also have set up a French and Hungarian language
board with help of users speaking those languages, but there
was almost no traffic. So I decided to just keep the german
and english language boards only.<br>
<br>
It's quite ease to set up a group or discussion board but
it's permanent work to keep it running if it's still small
and not well known. Since I started my site in 2004 it now
will have about 1.600.000 page views generated by about
165.000 visits (this year 2010, robots are not counted).<br>
So now it's quite well known in Germany and there are new
postings almost every day. But it will take a lot of
additional work to get some more action in the other areas
and english language boards.<br>
<br>
If I would translate each posting manually => this would
be too much work (I also have a "normal" job to do at a
biogas company :) ).<br>
And I think automated translation and cross-posting between
my boards would not be a very good idea, since the quality
of translations may be very wrong and also the topic
interests between the english language board users and
german board users are quite different. <br>
<br>
Markus
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<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><br>
Alex <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Markus
Schlattmann <span><<a href="mailto:firmen@schlattmann.de" target="_blank">firmen@schlattmann.de</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div> There's also a biogas group on Facebook (not
very active) and my own discussion boards on <a href="http://schlattmann.de" target="_blank">schlattmann.de</a>
(german: very active, english: still not very
active).<br>
<br>
Markus<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 30.11.2010 16:20, schrieb Anand Karve:
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div>Dear Hooroo,</div>
<div>I am the member of only this one
group.</div>
<div>Yours</div>
<div>A.D.Karve<br>
<br>
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<div>On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:21 PM,
Mattocks, Richard <span><<a href="mailto:Richard.Mattocks@veoliawater.com" target="_blank">Richard.Mattocks@veoliawater.com</a>></span>
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<p> <span>That was easy. Might
you share contact info for the
org’s?</span> </p>
<p> <span> </span> </p>
<p> <span>Thanks for all your
work.</span> </p>
<p> <span> </span> </p>
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<p> <span>Richard</span>
</p>
<p> <span> </span> <span></span>
</p>
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Harris<br>
<b><span>Sent:</span></b>
Monday, November 29, 2010
9:23 PM<br>
<b><span>To:</span></b> 'For
Discussion of Anaerobic
Digestion'<br>
<b><span>Subject:</span></b>
[Digestion] Biogas Groups</span>
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<p> <span> </span> </p>
<p> <span lang="EN-AU">G’day All,</span>
</p>
<p> <span lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
<p> <span lang="EN-AU">As the
number of Anaerobic
Digestion/Biogas Discussion
forums grows I thought it
would be interesting to see
who is a member of what. I
have set up a one question
survey where you can click on
the appropriate lists (or add
any that I have not found
yet!).</span> </p>
<p> <span lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
<p> <span lang="EN-AU">Please
participate in the survey at <a href="http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/ZBCWSH7" target="_blank">http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/ZBCWSH7</a>
and I will publish the results
for your enlightenment.</span>
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<p> <span lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
<p> <span lang="EN-AU">Happy
digesting,</span> </p>
<p> <span lang="EN-AU">HOOROO</span>
</p>
<p> <span lang="EN-AU"> </span> </p>
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