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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel> Ruben,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>you must not read my emails. Refer back to
my earlier emails. I stated that the stupid energy policy of the current
regime was creating a situation in which</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>we were only now going to hit an all time high for
farm commodities. The primes of my position is that manipulating the
system</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>Has "unintended consequences". The price traders
sell commodities on international markets seldom represent the price US
farmers receive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>The current price of cotton is a glairing example.
Almost all cotton farmers In the US were paid half or less than what the
traders received.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>Fossil fuels are free in the ground as I have
stated. Look what the markup is on petroleum products. It is nearly the lowest
of all industries. Those evil</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>oil companies are getting less than 10%
markup.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>Ok, if I accept your primes that gluttones energy
users are causing the claimed "global warming" what caused the previous episodes
of "Global warming"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>and subsequent Ice ages???? Good old Al Gore has
been quoted as saying you could stop all fossil use and could not achieve one
full degree of cooling.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>I believe the UN was one of the sources of
the funds that paid the junk scientists for the junk science that supported The
global warming hoax which they now call " global climate change" due to
the lack of credible scientific evidence.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>Brent</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=9watts@gmail.com href="mailto:9watts@gmail.com">Reuben Deumling</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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href="mailto:digestion@lists.bioenergylists.org">For Discussion of Anaerobic
Digestion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:19
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Digestion] Biogas
conversation rates</DIV>
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:07 PM, bingham <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:bingham@zekes.com">bingham@zekes.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV bgcolor="#ffffff"><FONT size=2><FONT face=Corbel>...</FONT></FONT><FONT
size=2 face=Corbel>It costs more in</FONT><FONT size=2 face=Corbel> natural
gas to distill than it is worth. </FONT><FONT size=2
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<DIV><BR>I thought fossil fuels were free.<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV bgcolor="#ffffff"><FONT size=2 face=Corbel>When I use ????
or !!!! it is my way to express my skepticism and or incredulity, not
volume or anger.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR> In your lingo I would now be inclined to insert 13 question
marks to express my incredulity. <BR></DIV>
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<DIV> the primary reason for lower grain costs not subsidies. If you
check the prices US farmers were paid over the last 3 decades, you will see
those prices have not gone up, nearly as much.</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Corbel><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman">Your
primes is based on out dated information and according to my sources your
source was not credible when it was written. Perhaps you can find a
government source to support there numbers in as much as the government is
supposedly making the payments.</FONT></FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR><<more incredulous question marks
inserted>><BR><BR>"<FONT size=2 face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">And
on January 5, the U.N. Food and Agricultural organization announced that its
food price index for December hit an all-time high.</FONT><FONT size=2
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">... But whereas in years past, it's been
weather that has caused a spike in commodities prices, now it's trends on both
sides of the food supply/demand equation that are driving up prices. On the
demand side, the culprits are population growth, rising affluence, and the use
of grain to fuel cars. On the supply side: soil erosion, aquifer depletion,
the loss of cropland to nonfarm uses, the diversion of irrigation water to
cities, the plateauing of crop yields in agriculturally advanced countries,
and—due to climate change —crop-withering heat waves and melting mountain
glaciers and ice sheets. These climate-related trends seem destined to take a
far greater toll in the future.</FONT><FONT size=2
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">" <BR>(excerpts from the article copied
above in full, and </FONT>published in Foreign Affairs<FONT size=2
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">, which you might want to glance
at)</FONT> <BR><BR></DIV>
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