<div>Very well said Paul. Couldn't agree more</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Paul Harris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul.harris@adelaide.edu.au">paul.harris@adelaide.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">G'day Marc,<br><br>I have not read the first post yet (only your quote) but am replying to you<br>off list as I think your response in this case is a bit personal and harsh<br>
(But I welcome your other contributions!). I realise it is easy to fire off<br>an e-mail without fully realising the implications, or audience.<br><br>In our local weather there are long term trends of higher temperatures and<br>
lower rainfall, so I am fairly sure the climate is changing. Modelling shows<br>that nature on its own would not have caused this, so I am fairly sure that<br>man is contributing.<br><br>But my real argument is that "climate change" is a distracting symptom and<br>
the real need is to rapidly reduce our use of "natural" resources like<br>fossil fuels and minerals while we still have the option so that our<br>grandchildren will have the means to exist. If we don't slow down our<br>
"Growth" there will a catastrophe that makes the Global Financial Crisis<br>pale into insignificance.<br><br>All the best,<br>HOOROO<br><br>Mr. Paul Harris, Room 202 Charles Hawker Building, Faculty of Sciences, The <br>
University of Adelaide, Waite Campus, PMB 1, Glen Osmond SA 5064 Ph : +61<br>8 8303 7880 Fax : +61 8 8303 4386<br>mailto:<a href="mailto:paul.harris@adelaide.edu.au">paul.harris@adelaide.edu.au</a> <br><a href="http://www.adelaide.edu.au/directory/paul.harris" target="_blank">http://www.adelaide.edu.au/directory/paul.harris</a><br>
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<div class="h5">An invitation to mental masturbation.<br><br>Manmade global warming is a lie. The liars have been caught lying. Get<br>over it. There are plenty of real problems in desperate need of the kind<br>of focus this message is intended to elicit.<br>
<br>Marc<br><br>On 7/20/2011 3:00 AM, <a href="mailto:digestion-request@lists.bioenergylists.org">digestion-request@lists.bioenergylists.org</a> wrote:<br><br>> When it comes to energy and global climate change, most<br>
> Americans can be loosely grouped into 3 tribes, each well-meaning<br>> in its own way:<br>><br>><br>><br>> Global climate change deniers;Entrepreneurs and others who believe we can<br>innovate our<br>> way out of any problems, and that new energy sources will be found to<br>
replace<br>> existing ones as needed, soon;Citizens who are quietly concerned, hoping<br>and trusting<br>> that someone else has the situation under control; some of these citizens<br>are<br>> making personal changes in response to their concerns.<br>
><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> What if all three tribes are wrong? Wouldn't it be a good<br>> idea to practice thinking about it?<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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