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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Alex,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>See if you can run culprit motor on a VFD (variable frequency drive). A VFD can be programmed for a timed start (ramp up) which would control a 'across the line' massive inrush.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I hope this help!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:green'>Charlie Ramos</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:green'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:green'><a href="blocked::http://www.biogreenengineering.com/" title="blocked::http://www.biogreenengineering.com/"><span style='color:green;text-decoration:none'>BioGreen Engineering LLC</span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:green'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:green'><a href="blocked::mailto:cramos@biogreenengineering.com" title="blocked::mailto:cramos@biogreenengineering.com"><span style='color:green;text-decoration:none'>cramos@biogreenengineering.com</span></a></span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:green'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:green'>+1-407-459-7806 (office)</span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:green'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:green'>+1-407-412-0165 (cell)</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:green'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> digestion-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org [mailto:digestion-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Alexander Eaton<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:29 PM<br><b>To:</b> For Discussion of Anaerobic Digestion<br><b>Subject:</b> [Digestion] Electrical Generation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Group:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Very close to successfully running milking and refrigeration equipment with a biogas powered electrical generator...but yet so far away. We have converted a variety of gasoline engines to biogas without issue, the latest being a 8.5 kW Evans that is givings us about 5-6 kW (approximately 24 amps @ 240 volts). The running demand of the entire milking system is about 3.5 kW, but the starting peak of the motors are 5 times the normal running demand. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Problem: The start-up peak on the motors of the milking equipment exceed our (feasible) generation capacity, as the jump to 3-5 times the running power demand. We can get the main suction pump (3 HP) to run and start, but the tiny (0.5 HP) pump the pulls the milk to the refrigeration unit shuts us down every time on start-up. That pump only is on for very short times, but is very necessary for the system (we have considered how to eliminate with no luck). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Two options:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>1. Some sort of capacitor, battery or X device that would allow us to "smooth" out the demand spike of the motors as they start. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2. A good way to connect this small generator to the electrical grid so that the grid does the "smoothing", maybe not even at the same time. For this option, please focus on the technical, not the bureaucratic issues surrounding grid connection.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thoughts? What are we not considering? Options that include product suggestions welcome. Our potential to provide a cost effective biogas use for small and medium dairies has a lot of potential, but has been a slow starter! <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Best, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Alex <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-- <br>Alexander Eaton<br>Sistema Biobolsa<br>IRRI-Mexico<br>RedBioLAC<br><br>Mex cel: (55) 11522786<br>US cel: <a href="tel:970%20275%204505" target="_blank">970 275 4505</a><br><br><a href="mailto:alex@irrimexico.org" target="_blank">alex@irrimexico.org</a><br><a href="mailto:alex@sistemabiobolsa.com" target="_blank">alex@sistemabiobolsa.com</a><br><br><a href="http://sistemabiobolsa.com" target="_blank">sistemabiobolsa.com</a><br><a href="http://www.irrimexico.org" target="_blank">www.irrimexico.org</a><br><a href="http://www.redbiolac.org" target="_blank">www.redbiolac.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>