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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>Centrifugal pump works fine for us here on a 1000 M³ digester. Maintain the pump below the level of the holding tank to minimize air entry. We do incorporate about 35% liquid digestate from the digester into the new incoming slurry - before the pump. <br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 07:35:33 +0530<br>From: adkarve@gmail.com<br>To: davidf@kingdombio.com; digestion@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>Subject: Re: [Digestion] Use of centrifugal pump for transferring feedstock into digester<br><br><div>Dear Dr. Fulford,</div>
<div>thanks a lot for the explanation and the solution.</div>
<div>Yours</div>
<div>A.D.Karve<br><br></div>
<div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 12:45 AM, David <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davidf@kingdombio.com" target="_blank">davidf@kingdombio.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Dr Karve and listers, Hello,</div>
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<div>Tests I tried in a laboratory which involved pumping material into a digester suggested that flow velocity is important. The microbes do not seem to like being accelerated, and stop working. A centrifugal pump works by accelerating the fluid, so is not really suitable for use in an anaerobic digester. The type of pump most often used is a progressive cavity pump, although an archimedes screw is also good. </div>
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<div>Unfortunately, the project was not properly written up, mainly because it did not produce biogas. I did try to write a patent on the idea, but as it did not work, it became rather pointless. </div>
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<div>Best wishes,</div>
<div>David</div>
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<div>From: "Anand Karve" <<a href="mailto:adkarve@gmail.com" target="_blank">adkarve@gmail.com</a>></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear Marc,
<div>the feedstock is going into the digester all right. So obstruction in the feed line is not the problem. </div>
<div>Yours</div>
<div>A.D.Karve</div></div>
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<div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Marc de Piolenc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:piolenc@archivale.com" target="_blank">piolenc@archivale.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex;" class="ecxgmail_quote">There are at least two other possibilities<br><br>- cavitation within the pump leading to loss of "prime"; this is heavily dependent on where the pump is installed, bends and constriction in the feed line and so on<br>
<br>- formation of gas bubbles in the feed; why wouldn't fermentation start in the feed, given the right conditions? Those gas bubbles will act just like water vapor (cavitation) or air intrusion, and make the pump lose its "prime."<br>
<br>The usual remedy is installing a manual, reciprocating pump in line with the centrifugal pump. This is used for initially priming the centrifugal pump and for re-priming it if it gets gas-locked or "sucks dry." Whether this will work with a relatively thick slurry or not, I don't know.<br>
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