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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font face="Ubuntu">Hi All,<br>
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The folk related to biogas to biomethane is not totally storied.
We have invested a lot in engineering integrated "wet columns"
for both H2S treatment (bio trapping) and "water lines" for CO2
scrubbing (greenhouses and algal cultivation) in ordre to
generate additionnal revenues which will compensate the low
financial costs and few running costs of these treatment
equipments. A pilot plant is under-way and we shall thereby
verify (or not) that the positive perspectives of our economic
model are more than virtual.<br>
Let me just say that considering the dramatic increase in
demands of biopesticids and specific fast growing energetic or
feedstock biomass there is a ground to develop such
technologies. Some practical answers in the forthcoming months,
regarding biogas treatment thus opening more ways to biomethane
uses and transportation.<br>
Cheers<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Jean-Luc Sallustro, Managing Partner
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Le 10/06/2014 10:06, Alexander Eaton a écrit :<br>
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<p dir="ltr">I agree with Kyle. We also make biogas bladders for
transport, and you could but about two + hours of cooking gas is
a relatively small space. The gas flows out really well with
just a small counter weight. </p>
<p dir="ltr">I also think the effort to scrub the gas will be too
expensive and too much effort for the overall gain. Finally,
competing with US natural gas would be really hard as it is some
of the cheapest energy in the world. Rural households outside
of that grid may be interested. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Good luck, and keep us posted. </p>
<p dir="ltr">A</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 10, 2014 12:49 AM, "Kyle Schutter"
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Jacob,
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<div>Sounds interesting! I hope the economics work out in
the US though. In Kenya we have the advantage that we can
sell our biogas for about 4 times the price of natural gas
in the US, kJ per kJ.</div>
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<div>We have a supplier called Q-energy, based in Uganda,
manufacturing in China that makes small bags that are
meant for transporting gas. I would talk with them. I
don't see much trouble in getting the gas out, we just put
a piece of plywood and rock on top of a bag and all of
the gas comes out</div>
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<div>But why do you want to scrub it? Sounds like a lot of
work for not much benefit. Maybe I am missing something.</div>
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<div>Best wishes,</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Kyle Schutter
<div>Founder and Managing Director</div>
<div>Takamoto Biogas</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:16 PM,
Jacob Douenias <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:jdouenias@gmail.com" target="_blank">jdouenias@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear all,
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<div>I am a researcher and entrepreneur at Carnegie
Mellon University and I am working on how to share
the knowledge and benefits of simple AD systems with
Americans.</div>
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<div>My team has been investigating the possibility of
converting commercial food waste to biogas in a
low-tech 250 gallon digester, and then scrubbing
that biogas ourselves into biomethane.</div>
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<div>We want to hold events or cook-outs where local
chefs could cook great food using biomethane. </div>
<div><br>
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<div>To do this in our area the best way to share this
biomethane with others is to drive it to a local
gathering. </div>
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<div>What do you all think the safest way to go about
transporting this biomethane on the road would be?
If we were to invest in a low-cost biogas inflatable
(ie. PVC) and house this bag inside of a large
plastic enclosure would this be relatively safe? </div>
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<div>We want to share this technology and its benefits
with others! </div>
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<div>Can you help us figure this problem out?</div>
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<div>Best wishes,</div>
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-- Jake Douenias</div>
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