[Gasification] No time for beer in Munich- there's a real live imbert gasifier here
thomas reed
tombreed2009 at gmail.com
Sun Oct 31 13:53:40 CDT 2010
Jim:
Sounds like a very instructive visit. We saw one in less detail in a Danish
museum. Pics are great...
TOM REED
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Ronald Hongsermeier <rwhongser at web.de>wrote:
> jim,
> forgot to say: P.S. cf GEK forum post
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> ron
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> live imbert gasifier here
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> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Arnt Karlsen <arnt at c2i.net> wrote:
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>> On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:01:30 -0700, jim wrote in message
>> <AANLkTin=r4kWhoJRNmZ2PVPSEcDt9-yTd_teRGpFONG8 at mail.gmail.com>:
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>> > i'm still in munich and still enjoying the deutsches museum.
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>> > http://www.gekgasifier.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1002&c=newimages
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>> > also, there turned out to be another vehicle with an imbert gasifier
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>> ..what year are these 2 gasifiers, or rather,
>> when where they last serviced or modified?
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> both i now realize have been rebuilt, or rather, cleaned up and rerun in
> more contemporary times. the specifics of this i have yet to figure out.
> with a little more work we likely can. the history of the exhibits in the
> dm is very well kept. another interesting thing that surfaced is that the
> dm has a very large archive where they collect and keep machinery manuals,
> brochures and general consumable literature on these type of devices. it is
> very likely there is some interesting things to discover there too.
>
> either way, as for these machines, they've had some attention and been run
> in more recent times. the fuel in the adler one is more recently cut
> dimensioned lumber, not the wwII fuel. i took some samples from the char at
> various levels if we want to explore it.
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> the filters on the adler have been cleaned and repainted and never run
> after. the yellow thing in the picture with me is a baffle plate array from
> the horizontal ash tube on the side of the reactor. the baffle array was
> brand new. the tube and all plumbing was original. the water filter and
> packed bed in the front were cleaned out, but still original. the reactor
> itself is unrestored, like the rest of the adler. all the vessels show some
> rust and age, but are still well intact. they seem to be either 16 or 18awg
> mild steel. the hearth is cast, about 1/4 - 3/8" thick.
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> the ford truck has had a full off frame restoration. they appear to have
> done the gasifier at the same time. then ran it again, as the bottom of the
> reactor has all the paint burned off, just like ours! the water filter was
> very messy inside. i didn't see in the rest as i didn't have permission for
> that one.
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> the dm runs lots of their equipment. they do demos for visitors, and
> appear to take some out for special ocassions. it is far from a hands on
> museum, but they do run and move around the equipment it appears. there are
> pictures of various machines in parades and such. the dm is a major
> national project, and they enjoy showing some of the accomplishments. there
> are a good deal of steam engines set up to run on compressed air within the
> museum. several of the very large ones, like the watt engine, are run on
> compressed air. the whole room smells of machine oil. some of the ic
> engines simiarly have exhaust pipes ported to vents so they can be run.
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> somehow in this, both of the gasifiers were run recently. not a ton, but a
> bit, and certainly more recently than wwII.
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>> > > > and a hammer. i saw little lost knowledge to rediscover. i saw
>> > > > lots of expedience, simplicity, and band aids.
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