[Gasification] Enventix: Syngas and Biochar from Waste

Kevin kchisholm at ca.inter.net
Mon Jan 17 17:06:44 CST 2011


Dear Brian
----- Original Message ----- >
> I would very much like to add a small plasma punch to our gasifier outlet. 
> Was sharing that thought with someone at church Sunday (yesterday) and he 
> suggested I look at welding equipment. And now here is Tom implying the 
> same thing. Two in two days.... need to think about this more....

What do you see as an advantage from adding a plasma torch to the gasifier 
outlet?

Best wishes,

Kevin


>
> -brian
>
>
> On Jan 17, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Thomas Reed wrote:
>
>> Dear Tom, Jeff and all
>>
>> In the 1950s I Worked at the Linde Air (now Praxair) Company and was 
>> director of welding research for a time.  We had a number of physicists 
>> doing basic research, plus a lot of applied development work.  I hold 
>> several patents on plasma torches, and am glad to see this discussion of 
>> the merits of combining a small plasma input to aid pyrolysis.
>>
>> I hope most of this work is using graphite cathode (DC) or AC electrodes. 
>> They are cheap, ell developed, and relatively citable compared to all 
>> others.
>>
>> Forward!
>>
>> Tom Reed - Pyrologist
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr Thomas B Reed
>> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
>> www.Woodgas.com
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:55 AM, "Tom Miles" <tmiles at trmiles.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff,
>>>
>>> There seem to be two approaches to using plasma in biomass gasification: 
>>> as
>>> an igniter and as a reformer. Two companies use the plasma as a super 
>>> "hot
>>> plate" that they dump biomass onto in an updraft gasifier. This is the
>>> AlterNRG approach. http://www.alternrg.ca/
>>> http://alternrg.com/plasma_market_solutions/biomass_to_ethanol
>>> They are able to make a gas that is low in oxygen and rich in CO and H2
>>> while supplying only about 3% of the input energy as electricity. The 
>>> rest
>>> is from the biomass.
>>>
>>> There are other plasma reformers coupled with updraft gasifiers. There 
>>> was a
>>> project proposed in Canada using this approach with a PRM gasifier.
>>> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/prmemay2007 
>>> http://www.prmenergy.com/ I
>>> don't know if this project has snapped, crackled or popped.
>>>
>>> Los Angeles Country looked at plasma gasifiers for waste a couple of 
>>> years
>>> go.
>>> http://dpw.lacounty.gov/epd/tf/Attachments/SubCommittee%20Attachments/CT_Eva
>>> l_Rpt_App.pdf
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
>>> [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Jeff
>>> Davis
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 6:58 PM
>>> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
>>> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Enventix: Syngas and Biochar from Waste
>>>
>>> Dear Tom,
>>>
>>> I've often thought that a modified updraft gas producer coupled to a
>>> plasma reactor could be a lot of fun when working with waste feedstocks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Snap crackle and pop,
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>>
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