[Gasification] What happened at Choren
linvent at aol.com
linvent at aol.com
Sat Jul 9 10:32:19 CDT 2011
Dear Tom Miles and the list:
One thing that should be learned is that when there is a lot of
money around, the tendency is to hire a lot of folks and then the
pressure is on to burn money fast. I also see "financing issues with
start up of commercial plant" to read, too expensive, has technical
issues, vis a vis Range Fuels and others. This is a repeat of even the
Downdraft system from Grabowski under Syngas co. This was even
partially funded in the 80's by a group which had provided funding to
Thermogenics and the lead financier called me several years after
funding Syngas to say that i was right, it would fail. They decided to
not fund Thermogenics because of the lack of PhD's who could argue that
their process was better. Not having a degree made my arguments not
listened to.
The question arises as to what to do with a large staff which
initially does engineering work, and then when the design is completed,
what are they doing next until the design is completed and operational?
This is why to some extent, this work being done by consultants may be
better of a business structure.
Unfortunately, the financial world relies on degrees for results
which paves the way downhill. A multiple PhD in mathematics who was
Sandia National Laboratories' lead mathematician, with Stanford and
Caltech on his CV, had a saying on his door "A thermometer is not the
only thing with degrees and no brains".
The more of these large operations to hit the walls, the more
difficult the field will be to get serious project financing and move
forward. There are others slated to fail in near term from what I have
been hearing, high profile supposedly "successful commercial
operations".
Sincerely,
Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
President
Thermogenics Inc.
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Going into bankruptcy in Germany.
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On Jul 8, 2011, at 3:25 PM, "Tom Miles" <tmiles at trmiles.com>
wrote:
This Google alert abut Choren should be on interest to anyone who has
follwoed biomass pyrolysis an dgiasification to syngas. See the Google
Alert link below. Tom News1 new result for gasifier What Happened
at Choren?
Consumer Energy Report
The gasifier would be scaled up from the pilot plant scale of 1 MW th
to 45 MW th . Shell's Fischer-Tropsch technology was being used in the
plant, ...
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