[Gasification] (no subject)

Mark E. Ludlow mark at ludlow.com
Tue Jul 19 00:11:40 CDT 2011


What does it pay?

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[mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Tom
Miles
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 11:13 PM
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IIs there anyone else named Phil on the list that would like to respond for
Phil Badger?

Tom Miles

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[mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of phillip
manske
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 7:25 PM
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
Subject: Re: [Gasification] (no subject)

Hi Dr. Reed,

Thanks for the concern.  I had to pay bills for two months and then I needed
some cash so I can go marriage agency dates in Ukraine.  I lived in Ukraine
for a year so I kinda know whats up.  I found a woman there that likes me.
She looks like Meagan Fox but she has larger breasts.  She sells cosmetics
and lives in Melitopol.  I work next to a corporate lake and the lake is
feed by storm run off.  The lake has some good wildlife and I have taken to
turtle rescue when the chelons get stuck in the drainage pipes.  I got ten
already.  I have a snapper hatchling and hand sized softshell on a shelf by
my desk.

That's pretty cool Phil but it has nothing to with biomass.

I don't talk about gasifiers here because I don't know Jack.
Sometimes you just need to shut up and listen.

Yea so I decided I should read about the matter.
This book is great.
http://www.amazon.com/Transportation-Biofuels-Production-Biodiesel-Chemistry
/dp/1849730431

I got an eCopy if you want to see the relevant material.  The methane part
looks way doable and in fact I'm slowly working on that.  I found
sciencedirect.com which has a great index and all of the papers on the
matter are availalbe for free at the uni library but I don't have my Indiana
drives lic/ID yet so its another two weeks.  The papers come to $4500 if I
have to pay.

I wrote an executive summary for someone at GoBig and I after I sent that
off they asked for an executive summary and asked a few other questions.  I
made a good post at GEK and I got ass kissy with Mr.
Mason trying to amend my earlier offences.

Whats up with you Tom?

Warmest Regards

Phillip




Phillip Manske
195 w Puetz Rd h-114
Oak Creek WI, 53154
pmanske at afuels.net

Alchemy Fuels Executive Summary
Saturday, July 16, 2011

The Energy Policy Act of 2005 has mandated that investor owned utilities
must provide a certain amount of the energy they provide must be sourced
from renewable sources.  This amount has been regulated to grow both now and
in the future.  To date, wind and solar sources have been providing most of
this energy while biomass sourced energy has lagged.  Utilities have been
rejecting new applications for wind and solar energies while courting
biomass providers as many slots are still open.  Alchemy has determined a
course to make low cost biofuel to fulfill these requirements is a realistic
and profitable goal.

After reviewing scientific literature on the matter I, (working as Alchemy
Fuels) have decided that a two stage reactor designed to make methane is the
most efficient route to a biofuel called “biogas”.
This method was developed early in the biofuels research efforts and then
abandoned in favor of ethanol and other more lucrative transportation fuels.
Methane is a well founded and well functioning
fuel for generators designed to work with natural gas.   This process
is well reviewed and appreciated by the scientific community for its
ease use and lack of exotic requirements.   It can be described as a
methane digester without the required tons of manure feedstock.  The
research was pioneered by a scientist named Gaddy who founded a company
called BRI.  The process is referred as the microbial catalyst cellulosic
fuel pathway.

The process uses the output from gasifiers that use wood mass as a
feedstock.  A handful of gases are provided by the gasifier with the most
important being carbon monoxide and the lesser gases being hydrogen, carbon
dioxide and methane.  All of the gasses are used in the process.  The first
stage of the process uses a bacteria called p.
productus that uses the CO for growth and CO2 for the production of acetate
which is the feedstock for the second and final stage where a bacteria
called m. barkeri uses the acetate and hydrogen to make methane.  Methane,
unlike ethanol , does not need distilling which saves considerable effort,
energy and money.

The market for the gas or gas use comes from the aforementioned lack of
biomass energy providers.  Contract length is from 10 – 20 years, amount of
sale is typically 800 kilo watts per hour and the
compensation is from $.10 - $.15  per Kw hour.    Providers are
typically allowed to provide 24 hours a day.  Demand may vary but demand is
typically strong.  Biogas contracts are generally designed for methane
digesters but this type of process meets the legal definition of biogas even
without the $1 million digester.

This is a niche market but it can provide excellent returns and a
number of contracts can be signed simultaneously.   Sales are assured,
no distribution network is required.  Plants like this operate at a
technician level and not an engineer or scientist level.  There are few
critical points that may induce failure.  The required insurance is
difficult to get but I have found a provider and at least one work around
method.

Plants should be located near the biomass source to save money on
transportation and when the gas is made, it can be shipped at much
less expense to the generating facilities .   The plants will be
filled with wood biomass, gasifiers and vats that look like microbrewery
vats.

Being averse to large expenditures, I recommend a modest approach to first
make a five gallon reactor using bottled gas, then a system using a small
gasifier and then finally a system scaled to produce fuel at the rate to
meet the 800 kwh limit.

The described  process above is worth study and investment.  The science is
sound, the investment and risk is small, operating overhead is very low and
sales are guaranteed.  It appears margins should be very wide unlike typical
margins that are available to investors.

Questions may be directed to me at the email address above.

Regards

Phillip Manske








On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Thomas Reed <tombreed2010 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Phil
> I haven't heard your name for.a decade or so.  What cooks in biomass?
> Tom Reed
>
> Dr Thomas B Reed
> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation www.Woodgas.com On Jul 18, 
> 2011, at 7:04 PM, 
> "pbadger at bioenergyupdate.com"<pbadger at bioenergyupdate.com> wrote:
>
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