[Gasification] Continuing

Thomas Reed tombreed2010 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 19 06:31:32 CDT 2011


So, do you have an office in Melitopol?  Looks like it's close to the black sea.

Tom

Dr Thomas B Reed
President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
www.Woodgas.com

On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:25 PM, phillip manske <pdmanske at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dr. Reed,
> 
> Thanks for the concern.  I had to pay bills for two months and then I
> needed some cash so I can go marriage agency dates in Ukraine.  I
> lived in Ukraine for a year so I kinda know whats up.  I found a woman
> there that likes me.  She looks like Meagan Fox but she has larger
> breasts.  She sells cosmetics and lives in Melitopol.  I work next to
> a corporate lake and the lake is feed by storm run off.  The lake has
> some good wildlife and I have taken to  turtle rescue when the chelons
> get stuck in the drainage pipes.  I got ten already.  I have a snapper
> hatchling and hand sized softshell on a shelf by my desk.
> 
> That's pretty cool Phil but it has nothing to with biomass.
> 
> I don't talk about gasifiers here because I don't know Jack.
> Sometimes you just need to shut up and listen.
> 
> Yea so I decided I should read about the matter.
> This book is great.
> http://www.amazon.com/Transportation-Biofuels-Production-Biodiesel-Chemistry/dp/1849730431
> 
> I got an eCopy if you want to see the relevant material.  The methane
> part looks way doable and in fact I'm slowly working on that.  I found
> sciencedirect.com which has a great index and all of the papers on the
> matter are availalbe for free at the uni library but I don't have my
> Indiana drives lic/ID yet so its another two weeks.  The papers come
> to $4500 if I have to pay.
> 
> I wrote an executive summary for someone at GoBig and I after I sent
> that off they asked for an executive summary and asked a few other
> questions.  I made a good post at GEK and I got ass kissy with Mr.
> Mason trying to amend my earlier offences.
> 
> Whats up with you Tom?
> 
> Warmest Regards
> 
> Phillip
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Phillip Manske
> 195 w Puetz Rd h-114
> Oak Creek WI, 53154
> pmanske at afuels.net
> 
> Alchemy Fuels Executive Summary
> Saturday, July 16, 2011
> 
> The Energy Policy Act of 2005 has mandated that investor owned
> utilities must provide a certain amount of the energy they provide
> must be sourced from renewable sources.  This amount has been
> regulated to grow both now and in the future.  To date, wind and solar
> sources have been providing most of this energy while biomass sourced
> energy has lagged.  Utilities have been rejecting new applications for
> wind and solar energies while courting biomass providers as many slots
> are still open.  Alchemy has determined a course to make low cost
> biofuel to fulfill these requirements is a realistic and profitable
> goal.
> 
> After reviewing scientific literature on the matter I, (working as
> Alchemy Fuels) have decided that a two stage reactor designed to make
> methane is the most efficient route to a biofuel called “biogas”.
> This method was developed early in the biofuels research efforts and
> then abandoned in favor of ethanol and other more lucrative
> transportation fuels.  Methane is a well founded and well functioning
> fuel for generators designed to work with natural gas.   This process
> is well reviewed and appreciated by the scientific community for its
> ease use and lack of exotic requirements.   It can be described as a
> methane digester without the required tons of manure feedstock.  The
> research was pioneered by a scientist named Gaddy who founded a
> company called BRI.  The process is referred as the microbial catalyst
> cellulosic fuel pathway.
> 
> The process uses the output from gasifiers that use wood mass as a
> feedstock.  A handful of gases are provided by the gasifier with the
> most important being carbon monoxide and the lesser gases being
> hydrogen, carbon dioxide and methane.  All of the gasses are used in
> the process.  The first stage of the process uses a bacteria called p.
> productus that uses the CO for growth and CO2 for the production of
> acetate which is the feedstock for the second and final stage where a
> bacteria called m. barkeri uses the acetate and hydrogen to make
> methane.  Methane, unlike ethanol , does not need distilling which
> saves considerable effort, energy and money.
> 
> The market for the gas or gas use comes from the aforementioned lack
> of biomass energy providers.  Contract length is from 10 – 20 years,
> amount of sale is typically 800 kilo watts per hour and the
> compensation is from $.10 - $.15  per Kw hour.    Providers are
> typically allowed to provide 24 hours a day.  Demand may vary but
> demand is typically strong.  Biogas contracts are generally designed
> for methane digesters but this type of process meets the legal
> definition of biogas even without the $1 million digester.
> 
> This is a niche market but it can provide excellent returns and a
> number of contracts can be signed simultaneously.   Sales are assured,
> no distribution network is required.  Plants like this operate at a
> technician level and not an engineer or scientist level.  There are
> few critical points that may induce failure.  The required insurance
> is difficult to get but I have found a provider and at least one work
> around method.
> 
> Plants should be located near the biomass source to save money on
> transportation and when the gas is made, it can be shipped at much
> less expense to the generating facilities .   The plants will be
> filled with wood biomass, gasifiers and vats that look like
> microbrewery vats.
> 
> Being averse to large expenditures, I recommend a modest approach to
> first make a five gallon reactor using bottled gas, then a system
> using a small gasifier and then finally a system scaled to produce
> fuel at the rate to meet the 800 kwh limit.
> 
> The described  process above is worth study and investment.  The
> science is sound, the investment and risk is small, operating overhead
> is very low and sales are guaranteed.  It appears margins should be
> very wide unlike typical margins that are available to investors.
> 
> Questions may be directed to me at the email address above.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Phillip Manske
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Thomas Reed <tombreed2010 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Phil
>> I haven't heard your name for.a decade or so.  What cooks in biomass?
>> Tom Reed
>> 
>> Dr Thomas B Reed
>> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
>> www.Woodgas.com
>> On Jul 18, 2011, at 7:04 PM,
>> "pbadger at bioenergyupdate.com"<pbadger at bioenergyupdate.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
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