[Gasification] Biodiesel higher grade

Thu Jun 30 09:36:41 CDT 2011

There is a biodiesel which does not have the fouling or gelling issues 
of normal biodiesel. It has a special category issuance by the US EPA. 
It is clear.

Sincerely,
Leland T. "Tom" Taylor
President
Thermogenics Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rolf Uhle <energiesnaturals at gmx.de>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification 
<gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Thu, Jun 30, 2011 4:37 am
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Producer Gas Engine Paper

Yes Tom,
UVO does mean used vegoil.

They use it in many DI and IDI diesels over here.
Good filtering is a must !
For IDI s in a warm climate, no changes have to be made for 50 % UVO.
Look if your injection pump is a Bosch , these are the best.
Lukas and others are more susceptible to probs.
For DI, we recommand to start the car on diesel and change to Oil once 
warm.
There were reports on  "washby" of oil condensate in cold engines and
subsequent mixing of vegoil into the crankcase oil. This can lead to 
severe
thickening of both and lack of lubrication. Doesn't happen in IDI s.

Your Jetta will run beautifully !

Rolf

Am Donnerstag, 30. Juni 2011 12:09:05 schrieb Thomas Reed:
> Dear Rolf
>
> Just checking, is UVO, used vegetable oil?
>
> I have a new TDI Jetta.  Do you think it could handle it?
>
> There is more H in straight diesel than VO.  Maybe the H is mre 
labile in
>  VO.
>
> Puzzled...
>
> Tom Reed
>
> Dr Thomas B Reed
> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
> www.Woodgas.com
>
> On Jun 29, 2011, at 5:31 PM, Rolf Uhle <energiesnaturals at gmx.de> 
wrote:
> > F.w.i.w,
> > our Opel Astra prechamber (idi) Diesel runs on at least 50 % UVO 
and it
> > makes a difference!
> > Even 10 % of it in normal diesel gives a notable higher torque and
> > smoother running.I attribute this to the hydrogen content of the 
vegoil
> > which preignites the slower long carbon diesel.
> > You have the same effect with those hydrolizers peopel sell as fuel
> > savers for Otto and Diesel engines, I have been told.
> >
> > salut
> > QRolf
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2011 21:23:54 schrieb GF:
> >> Regarding H2 as an accelarent. for the power stroke of an IC.
> >> I have read that some research regarding the detonation of fuel air
> >> mixtures, using the addition of metal catalyst's permanently 
attached to
> >> the piston or cylinder walls, This accomplished  a high temperature
> >> reaction which provides "extra" hydrogen derived from steam. This 
being
> >> a development originating from research carried out on WW 2 fighter
> >> aircraft engines, to obtain a power boost during combat 
operations,
> >> including the injection of a water/methanol mix during the required
> >> "boost" period. It now seems that we are to have this mixture 
imposed by
> >> Government mandate without the "catalysts" to run our gasoline 
engines,
> >> Perhaps we should all use platinum tipped spark plugs to help with 
the
> >> reaction. All thanks to the corn lobby.
> >>
> >> GF
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com>
> >> To: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'
> >> <gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org> Cc: 'Sridhar Gururaja Rao'
> >> <srigrao14 at gmail.com>; gasification 
<gasification at bioenergylists.org>
> >> Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 12:09 pm
> >> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Producer Gas Engine Paper
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom, Sridhar,
> >>
> >> Is part of the solution to make producer gas with more hydrogen in 
it?
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >> From: gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org
> >> [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Thomas Reed Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:26 PM
> >> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
> >> Cc: Sridhar Gururaja Rao; <gasification at bioenergylists.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Producer Gas Engine Paper
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Eric and all
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> You commented on the lack of knock in engines running on producer 
gas.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The Octane of a fuel turns out to be 10x the compression ratio at 
which
> >> the engine will knock on a fuel in that engine.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Typical gasoline engines today have a CR of 8.5 and won't knock on 
85
> >> octane gasoline, but will knock on 80 octane gasoline.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Small planes typically demand high test gasoline 100 octane and 
have a
> >> CR of 10:1.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It is important to use the highest CR that a fuel will support.  
Both
> >> power AND efficiency increase linearly with CR.   I believe the 
octane
> >> of producer gas is over 150, and I have been urging all to raise 
the CR
> >> of engines running PG.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My company, CPC, ran PG in an engine with CR 15 and got no knock 
and
> >> spectacular power and efficiency.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It took five years to get them to do it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom Reed
> >>
> >>
> >> Dr Thomas B Reed
> >>
> >> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation
> >>
> >> www.Woodgas.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 28, 2011, at 2:11 PM, "Erin Rasmussen" <erin at trmiles.com> 
wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sridhar recently forwarded us information about his paper about 
Producer
> >> Gas Engines. It is an interesting paper, and we've posted a link 
to it
> >> from the gasification web site, but you can also get it directly 
from
> >> the publisher with this link.
> >>
> >>
> >> G. Sridhar and Ravindra Babu Yarasu (2010). Facts about Producer 
Gas
> >> Engine , Paths to Sustainable Energy, Jatin Nathwani and Artie Ng 
(Ed.),
> >> ISBN: 978-953-307-401-6, InTech,  Available from:
> >> 
http://www.intechopen.com/articles/show/title/facts-about-producer-gas-e
> >>ng ine
> >>
> >>
> >> To sum up, they connected an engine that has been designed to run 
on
> >> producer gas, to a downdraft gasifier, and recording and analyzing 
the
> >> results. There may be some surprises here, like the lack of knock 
at
> >> higher compression ratios, and the information gathering is both 
sound,
> >> and beautifully presented.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Erin Rasmussen
> >> TR Miles Techical Consultants Inc.
> >> and BioEnergy Discussion Lists
> >> erin at trmiles.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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