[Gasification] Identifying and fixing technical and commercial roadblocks to commercial small-scale CHP gasifiers

[Greg Manning]

Anand...

 So true, to bad they have also fallen into the same trap and my post on
this thread (just after yours).

Greg Manning


On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Anand Karve <adkarve at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear stovers,
> one of the reasons for biomass burning stoves not being accepted by the
> rural people in India is the fact that these devices are not used by
> households in the urban areas. The urban way of life serves the rural
> people as the role model. It is not the cost of the device but the fact
> that biomass burning stoves are considered to be rustic, old fashioned and
> a step back into the middle ages.  The same is true of houses made of
> bamboo, a biogas plant, or a school curriculum designed specifically to
> suit the needs of the rural schools, The rural people would spend any
> amount of money for things which they consider prestigeous, such as mobile
> phones, motor cycles, lavish marriage ceremonies, but not on a biomass
> burning improved stove.
> Things may perhaps change after all the petroleum in the world is finished
> and even the urban people are forced to use biomass as cooking fuel.
> Yours
> A.D.Karve
>
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 8:10 AM, David Coote <dccoote at mira.net> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Tom.
>>
>> A very useful study would be identifying  at good resolution the reasons
>> why small-scale CHP gasifiers fail technically and/or struggle
>> commercially. Once that's clearly established suitable focus can be brought
>> to bear on what is going wrong between pilot/demonstration and commercial
>> phases with a view to fixing the issues. I think the same could apply to
>> 2nd generation biofuels.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> David
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>>> Fra: gasification-bounces at lists.**bioenergylists.org<gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org>[mailto:
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>>> P? vegne af Tom Miles
>>> Sendt: 28. juni 2012 03:14
>>> Til: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'
>>> Emne: Re: [Gasification] Which of the gasifiers Tom listed are meeting
>>> Knoef's commercial criteria
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> It looks like you have the makings of a survey. :-/
>>>
>>> Harrie's criteria are good and would be difficult for most suppliers to
>>> meet. We want gasifiers to be as readily installed and operated as boilers.
>>>
>>> We should determine what needs to be done to get more suppliers over all
>>> of these hurdles.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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