[Gasification] Mini Grid Load Following With a Biomass Gasifier

[Greg Manning]

Hi Tom, (And List)

The work I've done involves much of what is in this thread.

First off, the governor is more important that the gasifier's ability to
perform. Myself, I'm using the Woodward "L series " programmable units,
they are "all in one" and can be configured for just about anything you can
throw at it, even droop, and ramp up.

Because they (Woodward) use a HAL effect sensor on the teeth of the
flywheel, the regulation can be set "tight" or "loose" (as needed by the
local utility)

The L series meets all the spec's to conform to IEEE power transmission
standards of the North American Grid, be it Local or Interstate,
interconnection.

http://www.woodward.com/EngineThrottleValves.aspx?terms=l%20series

Greg Manning
http://www.cangas.ca







On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com> wrote:

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> I think the Proton model is based on recovering the char. You’ll have to
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> *From:* Gasification [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org]
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> What do you do with the bio-char? I do not want to hear of it's use in
> agriculture as an economic solution as it has spotty performance, limited
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> Spanner Re2. Contact Thomas Bleul
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> For Proton the first commercial unit is being commissioned a the Wamplers
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> I have never heard about the spanner gasifier - do you have a reference?
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> The proton system have a lot of very promising claims - where can it be seen
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> Spanner 45 kWe  http://spanner-joos-vergaser.de/joomla/ This is intended for
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> Proton Power 250-500 kWe http://www.protonpower.com/  First commercial
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