[Gasification] Oil from plastic

Energies Naturals C.B. energiesnaturals at gmx.de
Thu Jul 18 02:40:54 CDT 2013


Hallo Toby,

A 5% plastic content with wood will double the BTU.  "Legal" is relative to the machinery it is used in. 
> Toby 

I have no idea about BTUs, but for J or Kcal I seriously doubt your doubling!

Rolf




On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 03:10:58 -0700 (PDT)
Toby Seiler <seilertechco at yahoo.com> wrote:

> A 5% plastic content with wood will double the BTU.  "Legal" is relative to the machinery it is used in. 
> Toby 
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>    1. Re: Oil from plastic waste (Energies Naturals C.B.)
> Hallo J.Paul,
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> the aim of liquifying plastics is often to use it in engines, that's why the relatively high cost of el. input could be justified. 
> How are the chances to use some other heat source and transfer it via thermal oils?
> 
> > Better yet use the waste plastic (thermal set plastics rather then resin set) as a binder in pelletization of wood waste where lignens present are insufficient to bind saw dust/shavings or chips (Such as waste coming from kiln dried wood sources). (The energy equation is far better)
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> Is this legal for domestic pellets?
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> Rolf
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> On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 04:30:01 -0700 (PDT)
> "J. Paul Villella" <woodboyz2 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > I've looked into these type systems - one from Japan made a bigger splash, news wise.  The energy input to crack long strands (plastics) to short strand (oil/liquids) is B.S. especially when considering electrical efficiencies (Basically a high temp hot plate) in producing the needed electric then transmitting it to the site and the resulting "oil" is still unrefined and the suggested use is to utilize the produce in heating oil capacity.  It's far better to do this in one shot - Burn the plastic at high temp for heating purposes - stove design becomes relevant though.  
> > 
> > Better yet use the waste plastic (thermal set plastics rather then resin set) as a binder in pelletization of wood waste where lignens present are insufficient to bind saw dust/shavings or chips (Such as waste coming from kiln dried wood sources). (The energy equation is far better)
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> >  From: Viswanathan KS <viswanathanks at gmail.com>
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> > Subject: [Gasification] Oil from plastic waste
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> > Pyrolysis system from India shows potential from recycled plastics that may be part of the liquid fuels solution while we develop renewable sources (TRM).
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> > From KS Viswanathan
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> > http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/fuel-from-waste-becomes-a-reality-now/article4914289.ece
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