[Gasification] questions

[sabbadess at aol.com]

Kermit,
 
I also forgot...the starch for ethanol is in the kernels, not the cobs.
 
http://northernselfreliance.com/ethanol-fuel/
 
Stephen
 
 
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Kermit,
 
They make great cattle feed and the ash content is high enough to cause clinkering problems.  There are just better uses for them.
 
Stephen
 
 
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         One majorquestion that I have about gasification is why corn cobs are not mentioned moreas a major fuel source. There must be a lot of them and as combined heat andpower they could keep farm houses, schools, and apartments warm. I know thatsome of them are returned to the soil and some are probably used to distillethanol. Wouldn’t it be better to distill the ethanol with solar energy or withcombined heat and manufacturing (comanufacturing)? Is cellulosic ethanol likelyto become important? Another question is, can we gasify the cobs and thenreturn the ashes to the soil or must we put carbon back to the soil tofertilize it?  Would powdered coal stayindefinitely in the soil and do the same thing? On this list I have seenopinions on both side of this but I hope someone knows the truth. 
          Sincefertilizer is all important to gasification and it will be scarce, we shouldconsider the use of sewage for fertilizer. One of the reasons that sewage issaid to be unfit is that medicines and other impurities would poison us.Wouldn’t gasification destroy many of these organic compounds and thus purifythe ashes so they could be used as fertilizer for food crops? Inorganic compoundsprobably would not be destroyed and in recycling fertilizer, salt might be theultimate pollutant.   
          Tom Reed’sgasification driven tractor seemed to me to be one of the best gasification projects.I did think that the sheet metal would rust pretty quickly and that it neededcast iron. I wonder if it ever worked enough to plow with. I believe that somefarm made ethanol used as a starting and power increasing fuel might make itmore practical. Making farming self supporting in terms of energy seems like agood idea.
       There are manycorn fields surrounding Ann Arbor yet the best energy project the city has cameup with is a large array of solar panels. Why not use those corn cobs? Where isthe propaganda machine for biomass energy? I believe that available biomassenergy is greater than either solar or wind but the environmentalists ignoreand deplore it. One way to advertise the virtue of biomass energy would be tocreate a large farm with an apartment on it. Gasification, can combine heat andpower for the building and also create enough fuel for plowing from farmbiomass. This would create a huge advertising of the need for gasification. 
 
                                                    K Schlansker                       


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