[Gasification] Need for off-grid non-solar electricity where biomass is plentiful

Sun Nov 11 15:37:00 CST 2018

Paul,

you are quite correct, I am thinking big and haven't yet promoted it
widely. My attempts to promote the turbine idea have been targeted rather
than broad brush. Bob, there are is nothing online about this yet for the
same reason. I spoke with some venture capitalists on Thursday and they
fact they were motivated by the idea tells me it is worth pushing harder to
secure funding. There are several other forestry related parties I could
pursue for funding, plus it is highly likely to attract part funding from
government here.

Big is more likely to attract development funding.

I think it will be less efficient at a smaller scale. Some gearing down
would likely be necessary. But a domestic size unit based around an
automotive turbocharger dimensions should be possible. Efficiencies should
still be way better than gasification and ICE combination (sorry Werner,
but this is simpler, more efficient, clean, probably more reliable, and
will scale up to utility level. It is the biomass solution the world
needs). My vision is to house it in concrete and capture the waste heat in
thermal mass for a CHP type arrangement, concrete could keep the noise
contained. Or capturing the waste heat in water would be a good solution
also.

I can supply a referral from a friend that is a Mechanical Engineer for
anyone seeking that level of oversight of the idea. That is conservationist
Pete Bethune.

For those wanting something without moving parts Gerard at Tecteg has a
sophisticated themoelectric module in development that will match up with
the IntensiFire stove solution. https://tecteg.com/ Like my idea, he hasn't
promoted it yet.

Regards

Jason

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 10:10 AM Anderson, Paul <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:

> Jason,
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> You and I have corresponded a few years back.   Congratulations on your
> progress.
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> I looked at the website.   I did not see the topic of making electricity
> with your technology.   Please correct me if I am incorrect about that.
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> And you wrote below:    “…where it could be fed into the grid using
> combined cycle.”   I think that means some big system.   I am directing my
> question toward staying off of the grid.  Does your technology suit that
> need?
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> I am hoping Tom and others can help quantify the need, such as info about
> units smaller than 5 or 7 kWe for short time usage, versus 8 to 15 kWe all
> day long, or 20kWe and larger units, And then the much larger units like 50
> kWe and even larger.
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> Paul
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> Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD
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> Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP
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> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu       Skype:   paultlud
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> Phone:  Office: 309-452-7072    Mobile: 309-531-4434
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> Website:   www.drtlud.com
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> *From:* Gasification <gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> *On
> Behalf Of *Jason
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 11, 2018 2:52 PM
> *To:* Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <
> gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Gasification] Need for off-grid non-solar electricity
> where biomass is plentiful
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> Paul and all,
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> for some time I have known my IntensiFire technology would be very
> suitable for a solid fuel turbine. With combustion temperatures sufficient
> to melt stainless steel in a batch burn scenario the carnot efficiency
> could match that of a liquid or gas fueled turbine.
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> A couple of attempts to secure funding have been unsuccessful but I
> recently heard discussion discussing the potential supply side rather than
> demand side - forestry residue. The calorific value of this forestry
> residue in New Zealand is equal to 10% of our electricity generation
> capacity but it is uneconomic to recover. I have met with someone that
> experimented unsuccessfully with biochar/pyrolysis oil to capture it. I
> found a willing ear for my proposal of a wood chip powered solid fuel
> turbine to power the chipper, and for transport fuel to get the chip to a
> central site where it could be fed into the grid using combined cycle. The
> willing ear spoke to his prior funding source and found another willing
> ear, so the wheels are turning.
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> There will be some technical issues to overcome, but I think it is
> achievable and an exciting development to be involved with.
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> It could change the direction of biomass energy projects if it proves
> reliable. I will keep pursuing options here in New Zealand, but if you want
> to be involved and can see a way to fund such a project please get in
> touch. http://intensifire.co.nz/
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> For your consideration.
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> Jason Stewart
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> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 9:31 AM Anderson, Paul <psanders at ilstu.edu> wrote:
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> Tom and all,
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> Please guide us (as a start) to understanding the needs and realities of
> off-grid non-solar power where biomass is plentiful.   Are there some key
> links?
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> Low-population, forested high latitude areas (less sunlight) without easy
> boat or train access would seem to be a major geographic region of need.
> Diesel generators seem to dominate the power generation.   What sources
> confirm these statements, how big is the problem (expressed as numbers of
> gensets at what sizes), and what is being done about it, and by whom?
>    (Canadians, please reply with your info.)
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> This should be a significant topic for this Listserv.
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> Paul
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> Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD
>
> Exec. Dir. of Juntos Energy Solutions NFP
>
> Email:  psanders at ilstu.edu       Skype:   paultlud
>
> Phone:  Office: 309-452-7072    Mobile: 309-531-4434
>
> Website:   www.drtlud.com
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> *From:* Gasification <gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> *On
> Behalf Of *tmiles at trmiles.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 11, 2018 1:13 PM
> *To:* 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' <
> gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Gasification] APL Gasifier in the Microgrid at the 2018
> Verge Conference
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> Are you in a marine air environment? There are many villages that need
> electricity in low coastal areas..
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> Tom
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