[Gasification] Off-grid small systems (need and what is available. RE: APL Gasifier in the Microgrid at the 2018 Verge Conference

Anderson, Paul psanders at ilstu.edu
Mon Nov 12 21:21:54 CST 2018 

The  unit by Spanner keeps getting mentioned.   This is from the website

https://bioenergyinternational.com/technology-suppliers/spanner-re%C2%B2-launches-new-generation-biomass-gasification-chp

Germany-headed Spanner Re² GmbH, a leading manufacturer of biomass gasification plants has announced that it is launching a new wood-based biomass combined heat and power (CHP) plant on the market. With around 68 kWe and 130 kWth, the "HKA 70" is the first of the new generation of the woodchip-fired CHP units from the company. With an electrical efficiency increase of 20 percent, the plant is more powerful and efficient than before.

68 kWe is not small.   Is there a known price?

Paul

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From: Gasification <gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org> On Behalf Of Björn Kuntze
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Subject: Re: [Gasification] APL Gasifier in the Microgrid at the 2018 Verge Conference

Hi Jess,

regarding your project with a small woodgas CHP, you really should take the Spanner system HKA-10 into closer consideration. Although you mentioned the high price, but at the end you are looking for a system that is not only cheap, but which is also working. And the Spanner system is working. I think that 9 kWe fits for your demand.
If you want to have something cheap, you should look for DIY-equipment instead. Good luck!

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Von: Gasification [mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org] Im Auftrag von jess at blackislefirewood.co.uk<mailto:jess at blackislefirewood.co.uk>
Gesendet: Samstag, 10. November 2018 19:33
An: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org<mailto:gasification at lists.bioenergylists.org>>
Betreff: Re: [Gasification] APL Gasifier in the Microgrid at the 2018 Verge Conference


HI Paul,

I run a woodchip/firewood business.

We are offgrid, with 3.5 kw of solar and a 5kw generator as backup.

We can get a connection to the grid of 30kwe but only single phase.

I would like to source a chp unit to provide power to us and also to the grid, plus use any heat for drying woodchip.

I presume you can split the 3 phase supply and export OK?

I am allright with nuts and bolts, currently running 2 biomass boilers and drying systems.

Thanks for your interest.

I have looked at the Spanner system but the price does not work with regards to the economic payback.

Yours,

Jess Christman

Swallowfield Smallholding Ltd.

Teandalloch Road

Beauly

IV4 7AA

Scotland

07517489774






On 2018-11-09 14:32, Anderson, Paul wrote:
Jess,

Could you please describe your situation more completely.    In terms of needs for what power for how many people/ businesses.   Then several of us could possibly better assist you.

Paul

Doc / Dr TLUD / Paul S. Anderson, PhD
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From: Gasification <gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org<mailto:gasification-bounces at lists.bioenergylists.org>> On Behalf Of jess at blackislefirewood.co.uk<mailto:jess at blackislefirewood.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2018 11:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [Gasification] APL Gasifier in the Microgrid at the 2018 Verge Conference


HI Tom,

I live in Scotland and wonder how All Power Labs PP30 is performing?

We are off grid and produce woodchip, so it would be a good fit. I am just concerned about reliability.

Jess




On 2018-10-13 19:19, tmiles at trmiles.com<mailto:tmiles at trmiles.com> wrote:
See the All Power Labs gasifier in the Microgrid Tour (Verge Energy) at the 2018 Verge Conference, Oakland Convention Center, Oakland, CA, October 16-18
https://www.greenbiz.com/events/verge-conference/oakland/2018/microgrid

VERGE Microgrid Tour Schedule:

Tuesday, October 16
1:00 PM - 1:20 PM
3:50 PM - 4:10 PM
6:00 PM - 6:20 PM

Wednesday, October 17
1:00 PM - 1:20 PM
3:50 PM - 4:10 PM
6:00 PM - 6:20 PM

Thursday, October 18
1:00 PM - 1:20 PM

Interesting collection of renewable technologies.

Tom

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