Please remove me from this list.<br/>John Irving<br /><br />-----Original Message-----<br />From: Kevin <kchisholm@ca.inter.net><br />To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org><br />Sent: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 21:47:31 -0300<br />Subject: Re: [Gasification] Tesla Turbine<br /><br />
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<div><font size=2 face=Arial>Dear Darren</font></div>
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<div><font size=2 face=Arial>Thanks very much for your excellent report. It
shows the strengths and weaknesses of the Boundary Layer Turbine concept very
well.</font></div>
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<div><font size=2 face=Arial>Best wishes,</font></div>
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<div><font size=2 face=Arial>Kevin</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title=dschmidt@undeerc.org href="mailto:dschmidt@undeerc.org">Schmidt,
Darren</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title=gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">Discussion of biomass
pyrolysis and gasification</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 04, 2010 11:20
AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> [Gasification] Tesla
Turbine</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Want
to know the actual expected performance of boundary layer
turbines.</span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">See
link – dynamometer testing.</span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><a target=_blank href="http://eisg.sdsu.edu/Far/00-06%20FAR%20Appendix%20A.pdf">http://eisg.sdsu.edu/Far/00-06%20FAR%20Appendix%20A.pdf</a></p>
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D. Schmidt, P.E., Senior Research Advisor</span></b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d"></span></p>
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[<a href='mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org?'>mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b><a href='mailto:sabbadess@aol.com'>sabbadess@aol.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 03, 2010 5:59
AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href='mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org'>gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Gasification] tests to design a new cheap gasifier
fan</span></p></div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jim,</span></p></div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Stay
away from Tesla turbines. I've already played with them and they are a
pain. I ended up laser cutting my disks then using #4 flat washers as
spacers to get the roughly .015 spacing between plates. The problem was
dealing with the lack of flatness in the sheet stock. Granted I was
using it as a power turbine, but it was still
painful.</span></p></div>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Given
how close the disks need to be I wouldn't go there. Any little bit of
tars or ash and they will plug. I would stay on your present
course.</span></p></div>
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Message-----<br>From: jim mason <<a href='mailto:jim@allpowerlabs.org'>jim@allpowerlabs.org</a>><br>To: Discussion
of biomass pyrolysis and gasification
<<a href='mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org'>gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>Sent: Sun, Oct 3, 2010 6:33
am<br>Subject: Re: [Gasification] tests to design a new cheap gasifier
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<div id=AOLMsgPart_0_c63e58ab-d24d-48da-a00a-72172d6891b1><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">the rotor made from the spinning disk with vanes between we have not</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">yet tested. we should i agree. we have testing the one sided version</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">with vanes at various angles forward and back from perpendicular. i</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">was surprised to find it makes little difference. backward rake,</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">espeically curve backwards at the tip is done with pro fans to reduce</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">noise, not increase pressure/vac. it actually reduces performance a</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">bit.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">it has taken awhile to get through my head that these fans are working</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">as centrifugal devices, not pressure devices. the blades are not</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">levers or pumps. they are simple accelerators for air mass. your</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">pressure/vac is coming from velocity and inertia/momentum.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">this is why the tightness to the walls makes little difference. i've</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">moved the rotor / wall tolerance around quite a bit and saw very</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">little diffference. i've read this is also why you see less double</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">walled rotors that one might expect. but i've yet to test this so</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">can't really say. greg says he gets 25% more out of these types.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">some devices in the weed blower vac world put vanes on both sides of</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">teh disk. but i think this is to prevent the weeds from getting stuck</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">on the back of the disk. see the toro blower for example of this.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">arnt raises an interesting concern about the rotor bending. the other</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">way to deal with this would be to make a full slot for the vanes, and</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">push the vanes through so they stick out on both sides. put a hole in</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">the center so air can feed to both sides of the rotor.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">and . . . i have to suggest it. . .</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">this might finally be a reasonable application for a tesla turbine.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">many parallel disks, no vanes or welding. problem is the distance</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">between the disks needs to be related to the laminar layer thickness</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">at the rpms one is running. the distances are usually very small.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">like a few 100ths of an inch. these are difficult tolerances to</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">maintain with junk cut metal.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">however, it begs to be tried. we will soon here. maybe at the</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">workshop next weekend.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">j</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Greg Manning <<a href="mailto:a31ford@gmail.com">a31ford@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> Greetings Jim, and list members.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> Jim, if you want a better fan, (and cheaper), simply make 2 disks (one</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> mounts on the shaft, the other has the larger hole for the inlet.)</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> then use strips of heavy tin (or light gauge metal) and form them into a Z</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> shape (well, an L with a dog leg the other end, and the opposite way,</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> somewhat like a "90 degree Z")</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> take these and pop rivet with STEEL rivets (NOT aluminum ones) so they are</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> sandwiched between the two disks in a radial fashion (like your welded</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> version on your site, BUT with the extra disk on the inlet side of things.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> the extra disk should run as close as it can to the outer housing the</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> Bernoulli principal will help stabilize the outer disk, and the outer disk</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> will add about 25% more suction to the unit for the same RPM (therefore the</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> entire unit could be built smaller and lighter).</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> Greg Manning,</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> Canadian Gasifier Ltd.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> Building Hi-Performance Gasifiers, Since 2001</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> Brandon, Manitoba, Canada</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> 1 (204) 726-1851</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> -----Original Message-----</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> From: <a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> [<a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org]On?">mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org]On</a> Behalf Of jim</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> mason</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 4:58 PM</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> To: <a href="mailto:gasification@bioenergylists.org">gasification@bioenergylists.org</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> Subject: [Gasification] tests to design a new cheap gasifier fan</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> we've been doing some work lately to design a new fan/blower that will</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> produce the needed vac and heat tolerance for gasifier operation. as</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> we all know, there is not an inexpensive source for such a thing from</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> other industries and applications. thus we had to build one for the</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> early gek kits.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> the original gek fan proved to not be strong enough once we finally</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> characterized the vac numbers that produce the flow/heat rates that</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> correspond to full tar conversion. the ejector/venturi solution we're</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> using currently produces plenty of vac and is very flexible, but</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> requires compressed air. this is not good for many off grid</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> situations. thus we still need a good fan/blower source. and one</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> that works on 12vdc, not an ac source.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> here's the info an pictures of our recent tests to produce this. we</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> are working towards a much simplified solution that also gets rid of</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> the welding to make it. this is based on the common car/truck fasco</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> type fan motor.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> <a target=_blank href="http://gekgasifier.com/forums/showthread.php?t=455">http://gekgasifier.com/forums/showthread.php?t=455</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> jim</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> --</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> --</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> Jim Mason</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> Website: <a target=_blank href="http://www.whatiamupto.com/">http://www.whatiamupto.com</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> Current Projects:</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> - Gasifier Experimenters Kit (the GEK): <a target=_blank href="http://www.gekgasifier.com/">http://www.gekgasifier.com</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> - Escape from Berkeley alt fuels vehicle race: <a target=_blank href="http://www.escapefromberkeley.com/">www.escapefromberkeley.com</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> - ALL Power Labs on Twitter: <a target=_blank href="http://twitter.com/allpowerlabs">http://twitter.com/allpowerlabs</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> - Shipyard 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href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenerg">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenerg</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> ylists.org</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> No virus found in this incoming message.</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> Checked by AVG - <a target=_blank href="http://www.avg.com/">www.avg.com</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3158 - Release Date: 10/02/10</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> 01:34:00</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: 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href="http://www.escapefromberkeley.com/">www.escapefromberkeley.com</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> - ALL Power Labs on Twitter: <a target=_blank href="http://twitter.com/allpowerlabs">http://twitter.com/allpowerlabs</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> - Shipyard Announce list:</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"><a target=_blank href="http://lists.spaceship.com/listinfo.cgi/icp-spaceship.com">http://lists.spaceship.com/listinfo.cgi/icp-spaceship.com</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">_______________________________________________</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black">Gasification mailing list</span></tt></pre><pre style="BACKGROUND: white"><tt><span style="COLOR: black"><a 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