arnt, here's page i found online about the imbert ford truck in the deutsches museum. this is from an enthusiasts group of vehicles produced at the ford cologne factory- pre, during and post wwII. ford has a very large history in germany. they were 50% of the truck market in the late 30s.<br>
<br><a href="http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.fomcc.de/v8_51.htm&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhg8BFWubmlOoQaSugS1IG1qXeB6iA">http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.fomcc.de/v8_51.htm&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhg8BFWubmlOoQaSugS1IG1qXeB6iA</a> <br>
<br>this page has a picture of the truck, showing the paint burned off the bottom of the holzvergaser, and good info on the german ford truck production history. <br><br>there is also a interesting page on imbert's life story on the same site. it fills in a bit on why he was in germany, and how he got into gasification in general. see here: <br>
<br><a href="http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.fomcc.de/imbert.htm&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhiA-DwTfSVuXeggDJoPxGpPSQy61A">http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.fomcc.de/imbert.htm&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhiA-DwTfSVuXeggDJoPxGpPSQy61A</a><br>
<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Arnt Karlsen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arnt@c2i.net">arnt@c2i.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:01:30 -0700, jim wrote in message<br>
<AANLkTin=<a href="mailto:r4kWhoJRNmZ2PVPSEcDt9-yTd_teRGpFONG8@mail.gmail.com">r4kWhoJRNmZ2PVPSEcDt9-yTd_teRGpFONG8@mail.gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> i'm still in munich and still enjoying the deutsches museum. i asked<br>
> for permission to inspect the internals of the imbert gasifier on the<br>
> adler and was, shockingly, granted an "ok" to do so. i spent three<br>
> hours digging around in it yesterday, taking pictures of all<br>
> internals, measuring details for cad drawings, and taking char<br>
> samples. i was rather wonderful, in a somewhat disturbingly geeky<br>
> way.<br>
<br>
</div>..aye, a silly happy sooty grin on all pictures<br>
is the price you pay for such jackpots. ;o)<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> after closer inspection, i need to somewhat retract the statement<br>
> that the ancients had nothing on us "moderns". there were some<br>
> unusual and unexpected things in the imbert. things i've never<br>
> realized from the drawings and the reports. nothing game changing,<br>
> but some of the details and integrations between internal reactor<br>
> components was more mature than we've realized. i'm going to need to<br>
> write this up in a series of reports, going component by component.<br>
> in the interim, here's a portrait of the researcher at work . . .<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.gekgasifier.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1002&c=newimages" target="_blank">http://www.gekgasifier.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=1002&c=newimages</a><br>
><br>
> also, there turned out to be another vehicle with an imbert gasifier<br>
<br>
</div>..what year are these 2 gasifiers, or rather,<br>
when where they last serviced or modified?<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
> in the vehicle part of the museum. this one was a ford truck with<br>
> behind cab unit. same basic architecture and components, but some<br>
> significant differences in execution.<br>
><br>
> i didn't get to spelunk the ford gasifier. i only got to dig through<br>
> the one on the adler. but fortunately i got to dig all i wanted.<br>
> the musuem staff was excited that someone actually cared about this.<br>
> the docents wanted to learn lots of details of why and how, as they<br>
> gives tours of this machine regularly.<br>
><br>
> reports will start soon.<br>
><br>
> jim<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Mark Ludlow <<a href="mailto:mark@ludlow.com">mark@ludlow.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Thanks, Rolf!<br>
> ><br>
> > Very useful insight and perspective. Things are often much more<br>
> > than they seem. (Every picture tells a story!)<br>
> ><br>
> > Mark<br>
> ><br>
> > -----Original Message-----<br>
> > From: <a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br>
> > [mailto:<a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
> > Rolf Uhle<br>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 11:19 AM<br>
> > To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br>
> > Subject: Re: [Gasification] No time for beer in Munich- there's a<br>
> > real live imbert gasifier here<br>
> ><br>
> > Hallo Jim,<br>
> > nice to know you enjoyed the GM just like I did both times I<br>
> > visited it - must<br>
> > be 30 + years ago.<br>
> > The beer is good, too, but we also had good stuff at Zellingen.<br>
> ><br>
> > "just basic steel and surprisingly mediocore welding. it was funny<br>
> > to see so many of the same problems and needs solved on the imbert<br>
> > in the same hack manner many of us still do with a welder and a<br>
> > hammer. i saw little lost knowledge to rediscover. i saw lots of<br>
> > expedience, simplicity, and band aids."<br>
> ><br>
> > |||Those were hard times, self earned of course. People I talked to<br>
> > who had lived that time told me everything good was reserved for<br>
> > military production,<br>
> > civil items were welded together by any means, gas mostly or with<br>
> > crap electrodes and by those workers ( very often unskilled women<br>
> > and compulsary labour) the war could spare.<br>
> > And god knows how often they fixed broken weldings after a unlit<br>
> > night drive<br>
> ><br>
> > over badly worn roads full of potholes. My parents told me amazing<br>
> > stories about improvising and survival.<br>
> > Plain sheet steel was everything they had, anything noble went into<br>
> > weapons.<br>
> > With the same effort in civil achievements, Hitler would have won<br>
> > any war without fighting one...<br>
> ><br>
> > If you ever have a chance to see the Verkehrsmuseum Luzern (CH) ,<br>
> > go. It is smaller than the DM but really woth your while.<br>
> ><br>
> > I went to the Valladolid Biomass Energy Show and showed some<br>
> > pictures of the<br>
> ><br>
> > PP around. Great response!<br>
> > We would have triumphed !<br>
> > Next year perhaps...<br>
> > Rolf<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Am Donnerstag, 28. Oktober 2010 03:43:25 schrieb jim mason:<br>
> > > just basic steel and surprisingly mediocore welding. it was funny<br>
> > > to see so many of the same problems and needs solved on the<br>
> > > imbert in the same hack manner many of us still do with a welder<br>
> > > and a hammer. i saw little lost knowledge to rediscover. i saw<br>
> > > lots of expedience, simplicity, and band aids.<br>
> ><br>
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