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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>Hi Jim and
Colleagues,</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>My evening is ruined yet once again by this
infernal technology, but I never duck if there is stuff to
stick!</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>That I continue to refer to fraudulent
claims, should not worry anyone who, like yourself, operate in an open manner.
In some ways I envy your capability to do what you have done, which
unfortunately from my long suffering financial supporters perspective, just
isn't and never will be possible. That I can never have the time to stop by for
a visit, is my loss not yours, because by necessity, it's flat out all the way
from the minute I hit the ground till I leave. I cannot play the tourist
even for a day in your beautiful city.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>That you should consider me as one of your
teaches pleases me no end, and I am happy to stand in the glow of your success,
as the student must be better than his teacher. Just know though, that I
don't smack anyone over the head for failing having tried (:-) There is however
for me, a problem with long debates, where semantics take over and it becomes
like verbal **** of the fingers. </STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>>now that the world seems to be caring again
about this tech, and we<BR>>have a major new tool in the garage to make it
work (the web), i hope<BR>>you will enjoy some of what you have worked so
hard for and<BR>>contributed so much to make possible. there are no end
of projects<BR>>that need doing.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>The web has been the saviour of
gasification, and I would add to that SKYPE, Solid Works and CAD drawings.
</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><BR>>while doing so, i hope you will also consider resisting the veiled
and<BR>>not so veiled suggestions that this particular one of your students
is<BR>>somehow proceeding with dishonesty. this has been a theme from
you<BR>>for about two years now, and frankly, i'm tired of it.</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>As I said, not your worry, as this is true fraud and being
perpetrated in several countries, the latest Australia and New Zealand. The
advise I would give to anyone pushing gasifiers, is show your work with
photography, provide the necessary authorized test documentation, and not
promise or claim things because you have done it for a few hours. Most reading
this</STRONG><STRONG> don't have to continually answer questions about
gasification companies from people in far away places, but I do as a unpaid
service to the uninformed. The frustration that is expressed more
often than not, is that having been offered the gasifier, it's never even
been built or tested in a commercial operating
environment. </STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV>>it would be difficult for me and our group to be doing this in
any<BR>>more open and exposed manner. all our work is up online for all
to<BR>>consider and critique. it is exhaustively documented in hard
data,<BR>>and any hand waving labelled as such. we have regular open
workshops<BR>>at our facility with large numbers of people who review all
the<BR>>details and see all the warts. between the workshops people
walk<BR>>through regularly to see and consider. our successes and
failures are<BR>>very public, and for most this has led to feeling of
transparency and<BR>>honesty in the endeavor not found elsewhere. i'm
not sure how to<BR>>create any more intimate opportunities for others to kick
the tires<BR>>and see if things hold air.</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>I'm not sure why you should feel so threatened with such public
involvement, but having set out to allow people to experiment with the GEK, the
results are not your problem. </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>If we use an incorrect phrase sometimes in our rush to get things
done, so what, correct it later. Learn and move on, because it takes a while to
present gasified discussion when you are dealing with multiple questions and
interruptions.</STRONG><BR><BR>>if you continue to find things otherwise, you
are again invited to<BR>>come see things for yourself during one of your
california visits.<BR>>same for greg, who is likely the biggest enthusiast of
contrary<BR>>suggestions at the moment. you both have been invited
multiple times<BR>>to our facility. you both continue to be
invited. the next workshop,<BR>>again with some form of long duration
gasifier-genset run, will happen<BR>>late feb most likely. yes, the
regular writing of grumpy and<BR>>pessimistic notes is more enjoyable, but i
do not find it to equal<BR>>increased honesty. i just find it
sad.</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>Grumpy I might be Jim, I spent the whole of my New Years
Day writing about the "Enigma" one single letter at a time, I'm that slow. My
wife was furious and with good reason, but, I was endeavouring to find some way
to bring into focus a touchy subject. I finished it at 11:30pm, a very long day
to start the year.</STRONG><BR><BR>>it has been a very interesting process
going from prototypes to demos<BR>>to pr to having a good deal of machines
out in the world. things<BR>>change rather significantly once one's
machines are out of the shop<BR>>and in the hands of others. you can no
longer make sure they are used<BR>>"correctly", and you can no longer control
the messaging that happens<BR>>around them. people do stranger things
than one could ever imagine.<BR>>odd stories get told that bear little
resemblance to what you said,<BR>>intended, or in fact did.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Covered this and you make your point to clarify the
situation.<BR><BR></STRONG>>dealing with the general public can easily insult
any optimism one<BR>>might have left regarding the human animal. but
fortunately the<BR>>opposite is also true. for me gasification has been
a fabulous filter<BR>>to find interesting people around the world. many
of the most<BR>>interesting ones show up regularly at our place. for
this i feel very<BR>>fortunate and have much gratitude.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Indeed we meet fantastic people.</STRONG><BR><BR>>at the same
time, i am often baffled by the suspicion of progress,<BR>>resistance to
science, and borderline ludditism one finds around wood<BR>>gas
discussions. in many instances, right here. if we really can
do<BR>>no better than what was done in 1906, why are any of us
even<BR>>bothering? defending such a position seems absurd to me.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Jim, ideas turn in to experiments, then towards some conclusion.
Our historical science is a foundation from which shaky take-offs can be
launched. It's just unfortunate that we have opinions in opposing
directions. If we were in a Pub discussion, the loser would buy the next round,
it's stiff banter most of the time. </STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><BR>>progress is clearly possible. small scale gasification is
likely even<BR>>a solvable problem. i'm highly confident we all can and
will.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>It is easier to be done now for many
places.<BR></STRONG><BR>>all here can participate in and benefit from the
emerging solutions.<BR>>it can be a shared and collaborative endeavor,
rewarding all here who<BR>>have co-taught each other. the pie is
massive. there is no zero sum<BR>>problem.<BR>>thus i disagree with
the across the board pessimism of your note and<BR>>counter with
optimism. it is an optimism i find supported by current<BR>>evidence
and experience.</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>Well said, good for you, never accept when your mind
disagrees.<BR><BR></STRONG>>a grateful student,<BR><BR><STRONG>If you still
consider me like that, write with capitals, it's doesn't respect the language
you use (:-)<BR></STRONG><BR><STRONG>Can I leave now?</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Doug Williams.</STRONG></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>