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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Pannirselvam,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>As the owner, principal sponsor, and administrator of this list for 15 years (since 1996) I can tell you that syngas is within the scope of this discussion. See list purpose below.) Gas production and refining to synthesis gases are also within the scope of the list. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Much of the discussion on the list has been on producer gas and its application to engines simply because that is what the more vocal members (of 1200) on the list seem to be interested in. Many list members have extensive experience in developing gasifiers for the production of liquid fuels and fuel cells. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Before you ask general questions on the list be sure to do your research. We have placed a large amount of information and links to gasification research and development on the gasification website that we maintain to support this discussion. Study the information and links at www.gasifiers.bioenergylists.org and in the discussion archives. We welcome information that we can add to the site.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Almost all gasification processes to power or liquid fuels are expensive today compared with traditional combustion technologies. Most of these are still in development. Reg Miller, a principal at Enventix, is one of many researchers who have been developing systems to make high quality gases from biomass. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I do not think that biomass gas - SOFC have become competitive yet with other conversion technologies like IC engines, ORC or gas turbines. The economic questions are evaluated each year by researchers around the world. You will find techno-economic studies in the presentations at many meetings. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Tom Miles<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>www.gasifiers.bioenergylists.org<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>About the Gasification Discussion List (from www.gasifiers.bioenergylists.org) :<o:p></o:p></span></p><p>"The purpose of this "Gasification" list is to promote the development and introduction of gasification of biomass to syngas for liquid fuels, heat and power.<o:p></o:p></p><p>The scope is broad:<o:p></o:p></p><p>"promote" includes technical information exchange, discussion of difficulties and means to overcome them, identification of pertinent<br>literature and expertise, etc.,<o:p></o:p></p><p>"development" includes such topics as research, development, demonstration and commercial manufacturing techniques. <o:p></o:p></p><p>"introduction" includes world-wide, using products fabricated in factories, the traditional sector, or by users. <o:p></o:p></p><p>"improved" refers to factors that will reduce biomass consumption, improve the health of users, reduce pollution (both locally<br>and globally), and/or augment income (as through charcoal-making),<o:p></o:p></p><p>"biomass" includes wood, charcoal, crop residues, and animal manures. <o:p></o:p></p><p>"gasifiers" can be used for heat generation for drying, curing, steam or hot water, syngas for liquid fuels production or fuel gas for power generation through engines and turbines.<o:p></o:p></p><p>The scope excludes commercial promotion of any specific corporation, but product identification and product factual information<br>is encouraged."<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org [mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pannirselvam P.V<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 16, 2011 12:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br><b>Cc:</b> Rajesh sk<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gasification] Enventix: Syngas and Biochar from Waste<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> Helo Tim <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> See the information published in the site , the link you sent <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> E<span class=apple-style-span><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'>nventix integrated oxygen-free gasification and steam generation system enables highly-efficient and cost-effective clean power generation and synthetic materials and fuels from coal, petroleum coke, biomass or any organic waste. It reduces the cost of Integrated Coal Gasification Plant (IGCC) by more than 24% and increases the efficiency by more than 15%</span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'> The new process show answer to our old following important questions </span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'> Can any one know in our the product gas is producer gas or GEK type quality gas , which was the source for hot topic in our list.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'> Syngas is possible to make without pure oxygen and also with reduced capital investments ?</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'> Is it pure syngas or gas with better quality?</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'> Is this site above publication about syngas can be true or not ?</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'> Can SOFC fuell cell engine can more economical than Ic engines and turbines ?</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'> Can production of methanol from syngas , can be more viable </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'>Yours truley</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'>Pannirselvam </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>