Helo Tom<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Tom Miles <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Pannirselvam,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">As the owner, principal sponsor, and administrator of this list for 15 years (since 1996) I can tell you that syngas is within the scope of this discussion. See list purpose below.) Gas production and refining to synthesis gases are also within the scope of the list.</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> <b> I am late comer to this very big list , like many young members here </b></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Much of the discussion on the list has been on producer gas and its application to engines simply because that is what the more vocal members (of 1200) on the list seem to be interested in. Many list members have extensive experience in developing gasifiers for the production of liquid fuels and fuel cells.</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> The content of our list is very much , well organized with videos and related full articles and documents of projects from many country.Congratulation for you and your dedicated team work </div>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Before you ask general questions on the list be sure to do your research. We have placed a large amount of information and links to gasification research and development on the gasification website that we maintain to support this discussion. Study the information and links at <a href="http://www.gasifiers.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">www.gasifiers.bioenergylists.org</a> and in the discussion archives. We welcome information that we can add to the site.</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> <b> I and my students do search here often , able to get good answers but mainly for gasifiers and CHP . I do find little work regards to syngas and liquid fuels </b></div>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt">Almost all gasification processes to power or liquid fuels are expensive today compared with traditional combustion technologies. Most of these are still in development. Reg Miller, a principal at Enventix, is one of many researchers who have been developing systems to make high quality gases from biomass. </span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> The information you always post along with links are very good one .</div><div>Even in the integrated reactor patent , these information are not available. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">I do not think that biomass gas - SOFC have become competitive yet with other conversion technologies like IC engines, ORC or gas turbines. The economic questions are evaluated each year by researchers around the world. You will find techno-economic studies in the presentations at many meetings.</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div> As you have always update the information , thanks to your answer.</div><div><br></div><div> With new integrated reactor developments , let us see the bioenegy project can have soon great green future .</div>
<div><br></div><div> The energy integtaion of sepearte steam ,making , pyrolsysi , gasification , reforming are all well done by a integrated reactor , but very complex one </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Kind regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Tom Miles</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="http://www.gasifiers.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">www.gasifiers.bioenergylists.org</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">About the Gasification Discussion List (from <a href="http://www.gasifiers.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">www.gasifiers.bioenergylists.org</a>) :</span></p>
<p>"The purpose of this "Gasification" list is to promote the development and introduction of gasification of biomass to syngas for liquid fuels, heat and power.</p><p>The scope is broad:</p><p>"promote" includes technical information exchange, discussion of difficulties and means to overcome them, identification of pertinent<br>
literature and expertise, etc.,</p><p>"development" includes such topics as research, development, demonstration and commercial manufacturing techniques. </p><p>"introduction" includes world-wide, using products fabricated in factories, the traditional sector, or by users. </p>
<p>"improved" refers to factors that will reduce biomass consumption, improve the health of users, reduce pollution (both locally<br>and globally), and/or augment income (as through charcoal-making),</p><p>"biomass" includes wood, charcoal, crop residues, and animal manures. </p>
<p>"gasifiers" can be used for heat generation for drying, curing, steam or hot water, syngas for liquid fuels production or fuel gas for power generation through engines and turbines.</p><p>The scope excludes commercial promotion of any specific corporation, but product identification and product factual information<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pannirselvam P.V<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 16, 2011 12:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br><b>Cc:</b> Rajesh sk<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gasification] Enventix: Syngas and Biochar from Waste</span></p>
</div><div class="im"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> Helo Tim </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> See the information published in the site , the link you sent </p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> E<span><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#666666">nventix integrated oxygen-free gasification and steam generation system enables highly-efficient and cost-effective clean power generation and synthetic materials and fuels from coal, petroleum coke, biomass or any organic waste. It reduces the cost of Integrated Coal Gasification Plant (IGCC) by more than 24% and increases the efficiency by more than 15%</span></b></span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><b><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#666666"> The new process show answer to our old following important questions </span></b></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">
</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#666666"> Can any one know in our the product gas is producer gas or GEK type quality gas , which was the source for hot topic in our list.</span></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#666666"> Syngas is possible to make without pure oxygen and also with reduced capital investments ?</span></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#666666"> Is it pure syngas or gas with better quality?</span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#666666"> Is this site above publication about syngas can be true or not ?</span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#666666"> Can SOFC fuell cell engine can more economical than Ic engines and turbines ?</span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#666666"> Can production of methanol from syngas , can be more viable </span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#666666">Yours truley</span></span></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:#666666">Pannirselvam </span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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