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Unfortunately, the Government is more impressed by confidence than competence, so the con-men usually get more than the deserving developers. Funding research efficiently is a tough structural problem. I'd like to see a system where anyone could start from a Science Fair entry, and show a talent for low-cost research results to get first dibs at the money.<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Bob Stuart</div><div><br><div><div>On 24-Jan-11, at 3:47 PM, Jim Leach wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="250544121-24012011"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">It is a sad story to be sure. I don't know anything about the details but one must not condemn the use of government sponsored research and development money just because Range failed. Many other researchers that were able to get government grants succeed and society has been rewarded for it. Keep in mind that is how the U.S. got to the moon.</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="250544121-24012011"></span> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="250544121-24012011"><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial">Best Regards,</font> </span></div> <div><font color="#0000ff" size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div> <div align="left"><font color="#04c6db" face="Arial"><strong>JAMES T. LEACH, P.E.</strong></font></div> <div align="left"><font color="#04c6db" size="2" face="Arial"><strong>President</strong></font></div> <div align="left"><strong><font color="#04c6db" size="2" face="Arial"></font></strong> </div> <div align="left"><font color="#23c2cf" face="Arial"><strong><em>DANA TECHNOLOGIES, INC.</em></strong></font></div> <div align="left"><font color="#23c2cf" size="2" face="Arial"><strong><em>32242 Paseo Adelanto, Suite D</em></strong></font></div> <div align="left"><font color="#23c2cf" size="2" face="Arial"><strong><em>San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675</em></strong></font></div> <div align="left"><font color="#23c2cf" size="2" face="Arial"><strong><em>Ph 949-496-6516</em></strong></font></div> <div align="left"><font color="#23c2cf" size="2" face="Arial"><strong><em>Fx 949-496-8133</em></strong></font></div> <div align="left"><font color="#23c2cf" size="2" face="Arial"><strong><em>Mobile 949-933-6518</em></strong></font></div> <div> </div><br> <div dir="ltr" lang="en-us" class="OutlookMessageHeader" align="left"> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org [<a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Thomas Koch<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 24, 2011 1:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gasification] Range Fuels Closing Plant<br></font><br></div> <div></div> <div dir="ltr" id="idOWAReplyText76195"> <div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Arial">I had a discussion with some of the engineers from Range in 2007 about how to adapt physical laws to their reality. </font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">I remember the feeling of being reactionary - cautious and less dynanic among a crowd that all the self confidence in the world. We where looking at some black stuff in a bearing - smelly - sticky - BUT IT WAS NOT - NOT - NOT TAR!!! </font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">Why not - because their gasifier did not produce tar - because tar would kill the catalyst. </font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">Thet really had visions - I remeber a senior person saying to me "Of course we can change the law of gravity - Nasa could put a man on the moon - it is just a matter of money" - </font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">Every thing I could say was - STOP - THINK - REFLECT - SEE - USE YOUR COMMON SENSE. All actions that did not at all match with a dynamic and fast moving venture investment - at this stage they where allready 2 month behind schedule. </font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">Thomas Koch</font></div> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div> <div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" size="2" face="Arial"></font> </div></div> <div dir="ltr"><br> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>Fra:</b> <a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a> på vegne af Ronald Bailey<br><b>Sendt:</b> ma 24-01-2011 21:25<br><b>Til:</b> 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'<br><b>Emne:</b> Re: [Gasification] Range Fuels Closing Plant<br></font><br></div> <div> <div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Dear Tom:</span></p><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></span> <br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Too bad that money couldn't have gone to a company that has technology that works.</span></p><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></span> <br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Ron Bailey Sr.<br><a href="mailto:rbaileys@prmenergy.com">rbaileys@prmenergy.com</a></span></p><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></span> <br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></span> <br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div> <div> <div style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org [<a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Miles<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 24, 2011 11:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'; <a href="mailto:biochar@yahoogroups.com">biochar@yahoogroups.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Gasification] Range Fuels Closing Plant</span></p></div></div><div> <br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><span style="COLOR: #1f497d"></span> <br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/news.display/id/21755">http://www.sustainablebusiness.com/index.cfm/go/news.display/id/21755</a></p><div><span style="COLOR: #1f497d"></span> <br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><span style="COLOR: #1f497d"></span> <br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><p>"Cellulosic ethanol company Range Fuels is closing its Soperton, Georgia facility after completing it first batch of ethanol, according to story posted by Georgia Public Broadcasting. </p><p>The firm, which has received more than $300 million dollars in state, federal and private funding, will lay off the majority of its workers and shutter operations, while it attempts to raise more money and address technical issues." </p><div><span style="COLOR: #1f497d"></span> <br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div></div></div><br><br>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5813 (20110124) __________<br><br>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.<br><br><a href="http://www.eset.com">http://www.eset.com</a><br> <br><br>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5813 (20110124) __________<br><br>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.<br><br><a href="http://www.eset.com">http://www.eset.com</a><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; 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