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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B>
gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org
[mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>GF<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:41 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
mark@ludlow.com; gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Gasification] Range Fuels Closing Plant<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=5><FONT
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Government Grants and Ethanol.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><o:p><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></o:p></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><o:p><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></o:p></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman">I think we all agree on: THE GREAT ETHANOL
SWINDLE.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman">This is where our tax dollars are diverted into non
economic production </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman">of a fuel additive which supposedly saves us from climate
change.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman">The primary players in this scam have made sure their
methods together with the cash cow they have created “REMAINS
INTACT”</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman">The last thing they desire is a new and more efficient
system to be discovered or adopted.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman">So how do they protect their interests?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman">Quite simply, take control of any new committees<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>responsible for the selection of grants
which might produce an alternative to their scam.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman">How could such a wasteful and useless system be chosen
for Federal Investment unless the people on the committee had an agenda which
also included the grant seekers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman">The naivety of those who believe that poor judgment on
the part of the perpetrators is the primary cause of such “losses” should have
their voting rights revoked.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman">There are no accidents or poor judgment in politics. That
is the excuse generated by a stupid and trusting electorate.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman">It will not matter how merit worthy your claim is for
grant money, it will not be considered worthy if it challenges an established
“funded” system. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman">It might be chosen if it has “floors”, in which case, be
prepared to share it with at least one member of the committee.</FONT></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman"> </FONT></o:p></DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=5
face="Times New Roman">GF</FONT></DIV><BR><BR>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Mark Ludlow <mark@ludlow.com><BR>To: 'Discussion of
biomass pyrolysis and gasification'
<gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org><BR>Sent: Tue, Jan 25, 2011 11:20
am<BR>Subject: Re: [Gasification] Range Fuels Closing Plant<BR><BR>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Tom writes:
</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Geneva','serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Wonder why
anyone stays in this field?</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Geneva','serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Reply: It
pays well.<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN
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<DIV style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>
[<A
href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org?">mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B><A
href="mailto:LINVENT@aol.com">LINVENT@aol.com</A><BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday,
January 25, 2011 6:27 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [Gasification] Range Fuels Closing Plant</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Geneva','serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dear
Technologists,<BR> The failure or whatever it is spun by
Mr. Klepper in the article announcing the closure of the plant, is by itself
devastating to the industry. Without a successfully operating plant, the
industry has no positive markers for the investment community. Do you think that
the financing group would do another bio-refinery after putting up the money for
this plant? <BR> What is more difficult is that nowhere
in the technical review community used to fund this plant was the critical eye
which said "It won't work". Of course, the developers may have shopped the
technical review until they got what they wanted to hear. The DOE is quite
apparently not able to make the distinction as they approved the funding. This
also means that a successful technology would not be known by them. It takes a
winner to know a winner. <BR> I had early meetings
with parts of the Klepper movement. A small private group which had put $1+mm
into the project and were basically abandoneed when the technology was sold to
another group for development. Their concerns were the reactor design which
apparently relied upon a mechanical system which they didn't think would scale
well. Not knowing what the issues with the plant not operating, this may have
been a contributing factor. They also said that they were sticking with it and
just picking my brains which I suspected and didn't contribute anything of
significance. <BR> There were also issues with the
catalyst. Reports that it produced only ethanol using the proprietary catalyst
were suspect as most of the catalysts for ethanol production produce methanol
also. The press statement that they ran a methanol batch first and then an
ethanol batch, are interesting in this regard.
<BR> DOE is doing a lot of soul searching at the
behest of the White House because of the dearth of bio-energy project successes.
Political pressure will not make it happen, money will not make it happen, but a
serious well developed , innovative, simple process and technology will.
<BR> Below are some of the massive
failures:<BR>Occidental's flash pyrolysis unit in Sad Diego:
$100mm<BR>Britestar/EDL pyrolysis unit in Australia: $200mm<BR>Range Fuels:
$300mm<BR>Molten Metals: $90mm(mostly DOE earmarked funds)<BR>Hawaii
IGT/EPRI/Westinghouse/HPL/ gasification unit: $30-50mm?<BR>Battelle's dual
fluidized bed gasification system: $60mm? <BR>Thermoselect's two stage
combustion system: $125mm/plant 4-5 plants except for the one in Japan which I
think is still operating. <BR>PRM's Philadelphia sewage sludge gasification
system: $2-3mm (blew up and was shut down very shortly after installation, I was
called to see if wanted the plant for scrap).<BR>Italian sawdust gasification
plant near Venice, 1 Mwe couldn't get an engine to run more than 40 hours
between valve jobs due to tar fouling of intake valves. <BR>Farmland's
acquisition of the Daggett, California Texaco coal gasification 144 Mwe power
plant and reconstituting it in Coffeville, Kansas to run on pet coke for ammonia
production. Texaco was thrown out of the project, Farmland finished the plant
got it running on petcoke, had to file bankruptcy and sell the 1100 ton/day
ammonia production unit using it to a separate entity.
<BR> The list goes on and on.
<BR> Wonder why anyone stays in this field?
<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Sand','serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Leland T.
"Tom" Taylor<BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Geneva','serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">President<BR>Thermogenics
Inc.<BR>505.463.8422<BR><A href="http://www.thermogenics.com/"
target=_blank>www.thermogenics.com</A><BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN
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