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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I am in a different industry and just joined to
learn more about gasification. Technical people suffer from honesty.
If you ask me a question about my idea, I will probably tell you ten reasons
that it may not work. I am afraid that the people with the money do not
appreciate honesty as they have none themselves. They are way too busy
looking to make a killing on the next gimmick after subprime
mortgages.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Robert Gersch</FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=seilertechco@yahoo.com href="mailto:seilertechco@yahoo.com">Toby
Seiler</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 29, 2011 10:15
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Gasification] Range Fuels
Closing Plant</DIV>
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<DIV>Jim, </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I think GF has a point about how politics work with
financing. The money chase by an inventor seems both
predetermined and rigged, even more so where large sums of money are
involved. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Re Range Fuels, a report says; "The first step converts the
biomass to synthesis gas and the second step converts the gas to
ethanol."</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Does the first step make producer gas or syngas? Apparently
the technical review didn't know the difference or was asked to overlook
it and it makes about a 10x difference. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Good day,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Toby <SPAN>Seiler</SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV>Seilertechco </DIV>
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<DIV>Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:12:24 -0500<BR>From: GF <<A
href="http://us.mc1136.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gfwhell@aol.com"
ymailto="mailto:gfwhell@aol.com"
saprocessedanchor="true">gfwhell@aol.com</A>><BR>To: <A
href="http://us.mc1136.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org"
ymailto="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org"
saprocessedanchor="true">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</A><BR>Subject:
Re: [Gasification] Range Fuels Closing Plant<BR>Message-ID: <<A
href="http://us.mc1136.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=8CD8BD663D29318-183C-2DFC@Webmail-d122.sysops.aol.com"
ymailto="mailto:8CD8BD663D29318-183C-2DFC@Webmail-d122.sysops.aol.com"
saprocessedanchor="true">8CD8BD663D29318-183C-2DFC@Webmail-d122.sysops.aol.com</A>><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR><BR><BR>Jim, <BR>I cannot offer
"proof" of the truth of my statement, If I could, I would not.
because I really don't care. I could write a book on the subject to show
people how they are being manipulated and "shaken down" by a well
organized creed who has taken over the western world.<BR>No doubt with
the passing of time you might see it. The worst is yet to come. The sad
thing is we fully deserve
it.<BR>GF<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
Jim Leach <<A
href="http://us.mc1136.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jleach@danatech.net"
ymailto="mailto:jleach@danatech.net"
saprocessedanchor="true">jleach@danatech.net</A>><BR>To: 'Discussion
of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' <<A
href="http://us.mc1136.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org"
ymailto="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org"
saprocessedanchor="true">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>>;
<A href="http://us.mc1136.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mark@ludlow.com"
ymailto="mailto:mark@ludlow.com"
saprocessedanchor="true">mark@ludlow.com</A><BR>Sent: Wed, Jan 26, 2011
12:18 pm<BR>Subject: Re: [Gasification] Range Fuels Closing
Plant<BR><BR><BR>That is a pretty nasty and bold claim, do you have any
facts to back that up?<BR><BR>JAMES T. LEACH,
P.E.<BR>President<BR><BR>DANA TECHNOLOGIES, INC.<BR>32242 Paseo
Adelanto, Suite D<BR>San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675<BR>Ph <SPAN
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ymailto="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org"
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On Behalf Of GF<BR>Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 10:41 AM<BR>To: <A
href="http://us.mc1136.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mark@ludlow.com"
ymailto="mailto:mark@ludlow.com"
saprocessedanchor="true">mark@ludlow.com</A>; <A
href="http://us.mc1136.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org"
ymailto="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org"
saprocessedanchor="true">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</A><BR>Subject:
Re: [Gasification] Range Fuels Closing Plant<BR><BR><BR><BR>
Government Grants and
Ethanol.<BR><BR><BR>I think we all agree on: THE GREAT ETHANOL
SWINDLE.<BR>This is where our tax dollars are diverted into non economic
production <BR>of a fuel additive which supposedly saves us from climate
change.<BR>The primary players in this scam have made sure their methods
together with the cash cow they have created ?REMAINS INTACT?<BR>The
last thing they desire is a new and more efficient system to be
discovered or adopted.<BR>So how do they protect their
interests?<BR>Quite simply, take control of any new committees
responsible for the selection of grants which might produce an
alternative to their scam.<BR>How could such a wasteful and useless
system be chosen for Federal Investment unless the people on the
committee had an agenda which also included the grant seekers.<BR>The
naivety of those who believe that poor judgment on the part of the
perpetrators is the primary cause of such ?losses? should have their
voting rights revoked.<BR>There are no accidents or poor judgment in
politics. That is the excuse generated by a stupid and trusting
electorate.<BR>It will not matter how merit worthy your claim is for
grant money, it will not be considered worthy if it challenges an
established ?funded? system. <BR>It might be chosen if it has ?floors?,
in which case, be prepared to share it with at least one member of the
committee.<BR><BR>GF<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Mark Ludlow <<A
href="http://us.mc1136.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mark@ludlow.com"
ymailto="mailto:mark@ludlow.com"
saprocessedanchor="true">mark@ludlow.com</A>><BR>To: 'Discussion of
biomass pyrolysis and gasification' <<A
href="http://us.mc1136.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org"
ymailto="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org"
saprocessedanchor="true">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>><BR>Sent:
Tue, Jan 25, 2011 11:20 am<BR>Subject: Re: [Gasification] Range Fuels
Closing Plant<BR><BR><BR><BR>Tom writes: Wonder why anyone stays in this
field?<BR><BR>Reply: It pays
well.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>
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