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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>Hi Pete and
Colleagues,</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial size=2>Seeing as you ask, this is what can be
offered:</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>> This topic sure has taken up a lot of
time. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>We can talk about multiple subjects at the
same time on this forum, and you select that which interests you the most.
However, there are not many who contribute enough to keep minds interested in
the mundane issues like correct use of terminology.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>>Why not just fix it if y'all don't like it the
way it is?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>This forum is an interest group and has no
mandate from any authorizing body to set standards or definitions. We are also
very International in our location, and therefore subject to working within
certain set standards, set by our administrations.</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><BR>> Earlier I suggested that the analysis of this mystery
gas might fit <BR>> into some numbering system, as is done with steel.</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>We make gas that already has set boundaries as to it's correct
identification, but to create a system based on numbers would require accurate
gas analysis for everyone involved. Many factors can affect the gas volumes,etc,
depending on the scales of gas production, and fuels used, plus seasonal
variations that play havoc with the same process. </STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV>> It seems to me that this group is the right one to do
it.<BR>> One could at least deal with the top half dozen components,
couldn't one?</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>Well, we certainly have plenty of knowledge, but we see only
a fraction of those belonging to this Forum contributing informed comment.
<BR></STRONG>> <BR>> Again, back to the steel analogy--- we don't have any
problems talking <BR>> about A36, 1018, W1, etc..</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>Having been defined by the steel industry, makes it easy for the
steel fabricators to use numbers. Shock horror if you aren't aware as an amateur
fabricator, and only think of iron,steel, tool steel, stainless steel, so not
everyone who talks about the subject, is on the same wave length.
Like any technology, you have to make the effort to learn about the differences,
then be more constructive in how you participate, <BR></STRONG> <BR>>
Maybe, a letter for the top component?<BR>> Maybe a 2 tier system,; one for
those gases with N2 and one for those <BR>> without?</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>Producer gas, and Syngas identify these two gases, how complicated
is that to understand?<BR> <BR></STRONG>> Maybe someone could at least
tell me why this shouldn't be done now?</DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>Quite simply, it has been done, but clearly some would
rather ignore correct definitions for reasoning of their own. The
market place remains very confused by how gasification is presented, and
the EU took the initiative in 2008-9, to set guidelines that can be used by
all involved, and be more informed with gasification projects. It's was a
huge job, involved many institutions, and is only a beginning to bring some
order into the implementation of gasification. The work has to be seen as
on-going, and maybe we can ask Harrie Knoef of BTG to explain their
progress, as I have current no on-line reference.</STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>Doug Williams,</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG>Fluidyne.</STRONG></DIV>
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