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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Steven,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>They may cover it, but what is the limit of liability? $10,000,000 or $1,000? It would seem that the exposure of the insurer would be pretty limited if you had not actually put any units into service. Are you an R-Stamp welder with all of your certifications in order? Home-built boilers even make my blood run cold!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Good Luck!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org [mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>sabbadess@aol.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 16, 2011 17:33<br><b>To:</b> gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gasification] insurance<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Toby,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Actually I did. I told the underwriter I was a sheetmetal shop building boilers and gasifiers and they explicitly blessed it. I asked twice because I didn't believe it. I can post the quote if you want to see it. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Now I just need to sell a boiler or a gasifier.......but that's another story.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Stephen<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Toby Seiler <seilertechco@yahoo.com><br>To: gasification <gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org><br>Cc: jim mason <jim@allpowerlabs.org><br>Sent: Mon, May 16, 2011 7:32 pm<br>Subject: [Gasification] insurance<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_2_bef1e01c-2b2e-4995-ac0c-7aa6bf9b563e"><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=624 style='width:6.5in;margin-left:.5in'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Jim,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Your telling us that your general business insurance policy will cover your product liability on the "gasifiers experimenters kit" or the "power pallet". Right.... I don't believe you. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>I've made complex machinery for too many years to believe that you can obtain product liablity on experimental and unproven machinery. Been there on much better developed equipment. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Write me off list (providing your PL underwriter) and I'll verify... then gladly eat my words.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Phillip has a policy application (I believe he wants auto insurance)... but no policy. He surely won't get it from Indiana Farm Bureau. How many people have really, truthfully disclosed that they are adding a gasifier to their insurance underwriter, where the undewriter had actual knowledge of the significant, added apparatus and approved it? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Toby <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Seilertechco <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_3_bef1e01c-2b2e-4995-ac0c-7aa6bf9b563e"><pre style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Gasification mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:Gasification@bioenergylists.org">Gasification@bioenergylists.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site:<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre style='margin-left:.5in;background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/" target="_blank">http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/</a><o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre></div></div></div></body></html>