Dear Ant and all list members <div><br></div><div> From rapid pyrolysis oil from sugqr cane bagasse , syntheticoil called bioflex oil was made in lab scale in Brazil from the aqueous part with ethanol, they would form esters using catalyst known of organic Fisher synthesis with significant yield and the quality of very good quality gasoline ; This oil can be also used as fuel in diesel engine .The yield is significant around 25 porcent of Bio oil; This not obtained from Tar distillqtion , but this organic green chemical can be also applied to the tar distilled products obtained by tar processing <br>
<br></div><div>Pannirselvam P;V</div><div>Brazil</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Arnt Karlsen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arnt@c2i.net">arnt@c2i.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">On Tue, 17 May 2011 07:35:32 -0400, Thomas wrote in message<br>
<<a href="mailto:5B63E130-CC20-44AE-9516-A2610117681E@gmail.com">5B63E130-CC20-44AE-9516-A2610117681E@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Dear ADK and all<br>
><br>
> AD KARVE has an interesting idea here. I doubt if he or I have the<br>
> equipment to follow it up, but hope some others here may do so.<br>
><br>
> When you tear the lignin and celluloses in wood apart during<br>
> pyrolysis, you briefly have a lot of VERY reactive species (free<br>
> radicals) desperately looking for partners.<br>
<br>
</div>..that makes a lot of sense, and helps explain<br>
my tar vapor flare performance. :o)<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> If they were supplied with a surplus of attractive partners, they<br>
> would make many attractive combinations, some commercial today, and<br>
> probably many others that would be attractive if available.<br>
><br>
> If the diluent partner was methanol or ethanol, they would form<br>
> esters (perfumes) ethers, and many other interesting compounds that<br>
> I'm not enough organic chemist to list.<br>
><br>
> I hope someone will give it a try...<br>
<br>
</div>..bubbling those tar vapors thru soap water and waste oil, creates an<br>
amazingly stable emulsion with a 2 year shelf life IME, we made half<br>
a dozen barrels that I understand the City of Stavanger took good care<br>
of then they tore down the building around our experimental backyard.<br>
<br>
..mixed a wee bit of my goo with saw dust, sand and dirt to clean up a<br>
wee driveway oil slick spill, the problem was it also ate the asphalt.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
><br>
> Tom Reed<br>
><br>
> Dr Thomas B Reed<br>
> President, The Biomass Energy Foundation<br>
> <a href="http://www.Woodgas.com" target="_blank">www.Woodgas.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</div>--<br>
<div class="im">..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen<br>
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...<br>
Scenarios always come in sets of three:<br>
best case, worst case, and just in case.<br>
<br>
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