<div>Hi Ed, </div>
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<div>If you feel you have something worthwhile, please contribute.</div>
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<div>Phillip</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Ed Woolsey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:woolsey@netins.net">woolsey@netins.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">I would add an action item ask to the end of the document.<br><br>I would be willing to submit to any paper but the DSMR. I've been working on one for them.<br>
I can think about another author if you'd like.
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<div class="h5"><br><br><br><br><br><br>On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:52:47 -0700<br> "Mark Ludlow" <<a href="mailto:mark@ludlow.com" target="_blank">mark@ludlow.com</a>> wrote:<br> So Philip, once you can grow trillions of<br>
Peptostreptococcus productus,<br> where are you? They take your useable CO and convert it<br>into CO2 and<br> acetate. Is this what you're after?<br><br> Mark<br><br><br><br>From: <a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">gasification-bounces@lists.<u></u>bioenergylists.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">gasification-bounces@<u></u>lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] On<br>Behalf Of phillip<br> manske<br> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:57 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:david@h4c.org" target="_blank">david@h4c.org</a>; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and<br>gasification<br> Subject: Re: [Gasification] Continuing<br><br><br><br> Hi all,<br><br><br><br> Until I get my library card, I'm gonna be quiet. That<br>
will be little more<br> than a week.<br><br><br><br> I have every intention of not digesting and every<br>intention of operating the<br> reactors according to published papers. Digestion is a<br>sloppy process and<br> digestate is very difficult to come by and manage. I'm<br>
not interested in<br> moving 10 tens of slop either in or out every day. No,<br>just no.<br><br><br><br> The gasifer provides reliably with no waste afterward,<br>the exact right<br> bacteria will act in the exact right way. I'm not going<br>
to make a reactor<br> and then leave the top off for a week and hope the right<br>bacteria shows up.m<br> That sounds counter productive.<br><br><br><br> There are very explicit instructions on the matter and I<br>intend on following<br>
them.<br><br><br><br> Peptostreptococcus productus or bust.<br><br><br><br> Phillip<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:37 AM, David <<a href="mailto:david@h4c.org" target="_blank">david@h4c.org</a>><br>
wrote:<br><br><br> Dr. Reed,<br><br><br> On 7/20/2011 12:27 PM, Thomas Reed wrote:<br><br> Dear Phil and all<br><br> Phil seems concerned about getting the "right" bacteria.<br> My impression is<br> "if you vuildmit, they will come".<br>
<br><br><br> Anaerobic life has proven ubiquitous, indeed, so wherever<br>conditions are<br> right-- a biogas digester, a stagnant pond, one's own<br>gut-- anaerobes indeed<br> "show up". One may want to gather inoculates from various<br>
sources-- cow<br> manure, ground up termites-- and put those things in the<br>digester, but it is<br> not certain that will assist in producing more biogas.<br>Regardless, given<br> that the digester will be a very complex ecosystem<br>
exposed to repeated<br> inoculations with incoming material, there is little<br>point in trying to<br> arrange things so that the "livestock" are restricted to<br>a particular set of<br> chosen species. It might be done, but it would require<br>
sterilizing incoming<br> material, etc., and it's not clear all that can take<br>place and still have<br> the system be net positive for energy, or indeed anything<br>like as net<br> positive as a "fill and forget" system.<br>
<br><br><br> d.<br><br> --<br><br> David William House<br><br> "The Complete Biogas Handbook" <a href="http://www.completebiogas.com/" target="_blank">www.completebiogas.com</a><br></div></div> <<a href="http://www.completebiogas.com/" target="_blank">http://www.completebiogas.<u></u>com/</a>>
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