<div>Clem</div>
<div>Maybe one solution would be a hand crank blower, similar to what the old blacksmiths used to use. What are you using the gasifier for?</div>
<div>tbone188<br><br></div>
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From: Jeff Davis <<a href="mailto:jeff0124@velocity.net">jeff0124@velocity.net</a>><br>To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br> <<a href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Gasifier fan<br>Message-ID: <1311526193.1453.4.camel@jeff-laptop><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"<br><br>My MEN gasifier didn't use a fan. I had to start on gasoline, not the<br>
best way to go. I think they did that for safety reasons because fanning<br>was the leading cause of woodgas deaths, back in the day.<br><br> Jeff<br><br><br>On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 04:18 +0000, Clement Aigbogun wrote:<br>> Has anybody on this list have success with operating a gasifier<br>
> without using a fan or blower.<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:01:33 -0300<br>From: "Pannirselvam P.V" <<a href="mailto:pannirbr@gmail.com">pannirbr@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<br> Hi Clement<br><br> we have made some expeirments with saw dust upflow stove , that ate<br>very simple to made.<br><br> With saw dust upflow work well making good gas with moiture , but<br>still i wonder why the same do not work with charcoal.Due to mass<br>
transtransfer of the water not redily come out frrom pores of charcaol,<br><br> Insteam puting water wirh carcoal<br>mix water with saw dustand then charcoal<br>This can work, may work.BUt you need to solve the start up problems<br>
<br>Yiurs truely<br>Pannirselvam<br><br>On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 1:18 AM, Clement Aigbogun <<a href="mailto:revicaig@yahoo.com">revicaig@yahoo.com</a>>wrote:<br><br>> I have built yet another gasifier, an updraft. The design is such that a<br>
> bed of charcoal would lay over damp materials(the water content of materials<br>> is far in excess of what may be found in any normal wood)<br>> Now because I intend to ignite from under, I want to ask if the natural<br>
> upward draft of heat would be sufficient to create the hot bed of charcoal<br>> which is already placed over these damp materials(these materials are<br>> inbetween combustibles-the first layer of combustibles provides continous<br>
> upward heat draft) without having the need for a fan or a blower.<br>> My problem with using a fan or a blower is that I may need to power it with<br>> electricity or batteries which are scarce commodities in rural Nigeria.<br>
> Has anybody on this list have success with operating a gasifier without<br>> using a fan or blower. By success I mean consistent engine grade gas output<br>> everytime the gasifier is operated.<br>> Clem<br>
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