Hi wayne <div><br></div><div> As all the hardware are low investments , the only important part is humanware , some pliots study , workshop so that GEK and eco motor people can promote in several places .</div>
<div><br></div><div> There is an urgent need to have simutaneous Engineering Expert group this work use google plus online realtime collaborative learning using you tube videos , make possible by comned plan , design, construct , operate and optimize participating all the fases</div>
<div><br></div><div> This list has human experts to make this posible </div><div>yours truely</div><div>Pannirselvam </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Wayne hipkin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:whipkin@gmail.com">whipkin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Recent two piston ecomotors ?are under<br>
> fast developments which combined with GEK gasifier , operating like viking<br>
> well proven can make possible as practical ?small energy genertion with low<br>
> investments HI Can I study this more indepth The two piston ecomoters?? Thanks guys Wayne<br>
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> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 19:05:15 -0700<br>
> From: jim mason <<a href="mailto:jim@allpowerlabs.org">jim@allpowerlabs.org</a>><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:gasification@bioenergylists.org">gasification@bioenergylists.org</a><br>
> Subject: [Gasification] effect of steam on tar and soot production<br>
> during pyrolysis?<br>
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> on the road to reducing problems in the reactor so there are less<br>
> issues to deal with in filtering, here's a new question.<br>
><br>
> does anyone know where to look for experimental results on the impacts<br>
> of increased steam in pyrolysis environments? my hunch is that<br>
> increased steam will lessen the production of PAHs and general double<br>
> carbon bonded refractory tars. we know we can do this by reducing<br>
> pyrolysis temp and slowing the ramp rate, but will steam also help<br>
> with this?<br>
><br>
> the literature shows a marked decrease in soot production in<br>
> combustion environments where there is high steam. steam apparently<br>
> interrupts the agglomeration on the PAH nucleus. thus to the degree<br>
> we can maintain adequate temps, steam is helping us with soot<br>
> reduction.<br>
><br>
> but what about during pyrolysis? does it reduce PAH production? do<br>
> it have other marked effects on the type of tars make? in general,<br>
> are there wins to be had with steam in pyrolysis that make things<br>
> meaningfully easier to deal with downstream?<br>
><br>
> i'm about at the end of what i can do on temp control during<br>
> pyrolysis. i'm hoping there is another route to engage to continue<br>
> improving the outputs of the pyrolysis stage.<br>
><br>
> j<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
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> Message: 2<br>
> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 21:46:17 -0500<br>
> From: Greg Manning <<a href="mailto:a31ford@gmail.com">a31ford@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br>
> <<a href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] effect of steam on tar and soot production<br>
> during pyrolysis?<br>
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> Greetings List.<br>
><br>
> Jim,<br>
><br>
> There are many ways to improve all "sections" (used loosely) within a<br>
> downdraft gasifier, however IMO, steam in biomass is NOT one of them,<br>
> Coal on the otherhand is the opposite.<br>
><br>
> Attempting to control the reaction temperature should only be done<br>
> within the design of the gasifier, for it's intended feedstock, any<br>
> other methods, simply put..... fail.<br>
><br>
> Design is paramount, get it right in the first place (aliken to the<br>
> foundation of a house) once the design is right, everything else runs<br>
> correct (level plumb and true).<br>
><br>
> Greg Manning<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 9:05 PM, jim mason <<a href="mailto:jim@allpowerlabs.org">jim@allpowerlabs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> on the road to reducing problems in the reactor so there are less<br>
><br>
> <snip><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ------------------------------<br>
><br>
> Message: 3<br>
> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 00:35:08 -0300<br>
> From: "Pannirselvam P.V" <<a href="mailto:pannirbr@gmail.com">pannirbr@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br>
> <<a href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
> Cc: Mark Nickelo Blanco <<a href="mailto:mark.nickelo.blanco@gmail.com">mark.nickelo.blanco@gmail.com</a>>, Rajesh sk<br>
> <<a href="mailto:rajeshsk76@gmail.com">rajeshsk76@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Gasification] effect of steam on tar and soot production<br>
> during pyrolysis?<br>
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> Dear Jim<br>
><br>
> Both the pyrolyis and steam gasification depends mostly on the<br>
> temperture<br>
> the temperture higher than 1000 C , can accelerate more the water gas<br>
> shift reaction thus into more hydrogen and co2 , and alos the co2<br>
> decomposition leading to more C0 ,shifting the equilibrium leading to the<br>
> gas with less co2 . Thus steam reforming into hydogen rich syn gas is<br>
> favoured along with methan formation, less soot , tar production needing<br>
> less , air , thus less n2 in the the gas output<br>
><br>
> in this case of high temperture , pyrolyis is not limiting factor , but<br>
> steam reforming is critical.<br>
><br>
> Low temperature pyrolysis can lead to tar, char fines PAH, thus optium ,<br>
> not only the steam ,but also the the biomass:Air :steam are important<br>
> parameters.<br>
><br>
> One of our research group project collaborator Dr.Rajessh has done ,<br>
> not experimental study , but modeling simulation and optimization of these<br>
> varibables as the Phd thesis .His email .is rajesh76@gmail.com.he also has<br>
> more than international publications , he is presenetly working Pos doctrate<br>
> research regarding several vital question you have made here .<br>
><br>
> Even for us who make model , the role of steam in pyrolysis is not very<br>
> clear.The steam , it products , c02 , can bring down very rapidly the<br>
> pyrolysis temperature , then there is problem of maintain steady<br>
> temperatures .<br>
><br>
> In this respect , the two satge Denmak Viking gasifier has two stges<br>
> :pyrolysis , steam gasification pliot plant are very well demonstrated ,<br>
> in which the engine exhaust are used to maintain the tempertaure in<br>
> pyrlolysis as in GEK , the hot air and steam are recoverd from gasifier.<br>
> Surley there are experimental published work is available<br>
> <a href="http://www.bgg.mek.dtu.dk/Publications.aspxot" target="_blank">http://www.bgg.mek.dtu.dk/Publications.aspxot</a><br>
><br>
> Not only steam air ratio, but how this can be used are important points ,<br>
> realy we do not have answer.<br>
><br>
> if you wish to use steam in pyrolysis , this need to be the superheated one<br>
> , as superheated steam is well proved to be good for combustion , this can<br>
> help cracking Carbon carbon bonds, tars etc.<br>
><br>
> Experimental results are lacking but you can serach several patents,where<br>
> you can surely find the correct answer.<br>
><br>
> Opensource google , several sites make possible very quick search abou the<br>
> same<br>
><br>
><br>
> GeK gasifier design is ok , there is an good scope to do operacional<br>
> research to optimize , minimize fuel consumption , make goodquality gas ,<br>
> improve overall energy efficienmcy.Recent two piston ecomotors are under<br>
> fast developments which combined with GEK gasifier , operating like viking<br>
> well proven can make possible as practical small energy genertion with low<br>
> investments<br>
><br>
> As you have open mind and open source ecobusiness model , making<br>
> money from biomass waste can be reality , an proven very soon , yet now<br>
> is an dream for many not an economicaly viable business, but technicaly<br>
> feasible as your well made GEK gasifier working demonstrated<br>
><br>
> Wish you all the sucess and thank you for your open minded sharing<br>
> information of technical information with our list, I am happy to see You<br>
> as an example and good model of other business venture bioenergy making<br>
> private company to share not only the problems , but also share several<br>
> important technical solution with open mind along with this list members,<br>
> eventhough top secret, stat of art technology one can keep awy from the<br>
> list<br>
><br>
> Welcome you to bring here the problems and the real isseu and I am sure<br>
> good way will be shown by several experts<br>
><br>
> Yours truely<br>
> Pannirselvam P.V<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:05 PM, jim mason <<a href="mailto:jim@allpowerlabs.org">jim@allpowerlabs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> on the road to reducing problems in the reactor so there are less<br>
>> issues to deal with in filtering, here's a new question.<br>
>><br>
>> does anyone know where to look for experimental results on the impacts<br>
>> of increased steam in pyrolysis environments? my hunch is that<br>
>> increased steam will lessen the production of PAHs and general double<br>
>> carbon bonded refractory tars. we know we can do this by reducing<br>
>> pyrolysis temp and slowing the ramp rate, but will steam also help<br>
>> with this?<br>
>><br>
>> the literature shows a marked decrease in soot production in<br>
>> combustion environments where there is high steam. steam apparently<br>
>> interrupts the agglomeration on the PAH nucleus. thus to the degree<br>
>> we can maintain adequate temps, steam is helping us with soot<br>
>> reduction.<br>
>><br>
>> but what about during pyrolysis? does it reduce PAH production? do<br>
>> it have other marked effects on the type of tars make? in general,<br>
>> are there wins to be had with steam in pyrolysis that make things<br>
>> meaningfully easier to deal with downstream?<br>
>><br>
>> i'm about at the end of what i can do on temp control during<br>
>> pyrolysis. i'm hoping there is another route to engage to continue<br>
>> improving the outputs of the pyrolysis stage.<br>
>><br>
>> j<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>><br>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>> Jim Mason<br>
>> Website: <a href="http://www.whatiamupto.com" target="_blank">http://www.whatiamupto.com</a><br>
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> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 05:16:01 -0500<br>
> From: Greg Manning <<a href="mailto:a31ford@gmail.com">a31ford@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br>
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> Subject: Re: [Gasification] effect of steam on tar and soot production<br>
> during pyrolysis?<br>
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> Greetings List, Jim, Pannirselvam.<br>
><br>
> I now re-read your initial post, and wonder quoting you..<br>
><br>
> Quote: "we know we can do this by reducing<br>
>>> pyrolysis temp and slowing the ramp rate, but will steam also help<br>
>>> with this?" < End Quote:<br>
><br>
> Reducing Pyrolysis Temperature ????? this is exactly where tars and<br>
> PAH's are created in the first place.<br>
><br>
> Sorry Jim, I'll back out of this conversation now, as we are in two<br>
> different worlds as to what makes a gasifier work correctly.<br>
><br>
> Greg Manning<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Pannirselvam P.V <<a href="mailto:pannirbr@gmail.com">pannirbr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ?Dear Jim<br>
>> ? ?Both the pyrolyis and steam gasification ?depends mostly ?on the<br>
>> temperture<br>
>> the ?temperture higher than ?1000 C , can ? accelerate ?more the ?water gas<br>
>> ?shift reaction thus ?into more ? hydrogen and co2 , and alos the ?co2<br>
>> ?decomposition ?leading to more C0 ,shifting ?the equilibrium leading to the<br>
>> gas with ?less co2 . Thus ?steam reforming into hydogen rich syn gas is<br>
>> favoured along with methan formation, less soot , tar production needing<br>
>> less , air , thus less n2 in the the gas output<br>
>> ? in this case of high temperture , pyrolyis is not limiting factor , but<br>
>> steam reforming ?is critical.<br>
>> Low ?temperature ?pyrolysis can lead to tar, char fines PAH, thus optium ,<br>
>> not only the steam ,but also the the biomass:Air :steam ?are important<br>
>> parameters.<br>
>> ? One of our ?research group ?project collaborator ?Dr.Rajessh ?has done ,<br>
>> not experimental ?study , but modeling simulation and optimization of ?these<br>
>> varibables as ?the Phd thesis .His email .is rajesh76@gmail.com.he also has<br>
>> more than international publications , he is presenetly working Pos doctrate<br>
>> research ?regarding several ?vital question you have ?made here .<br>
>> ? Even for us ?who make model ?, the role of steam in pyrolysis is not ?very<br>
>> clear.The steam , it products , c02 ?, can bring down very ?rapidly the<br>
>> pyrolysis temperature , then there is problem of maintain steady<br>
>> temperatures .<br>
>> ? ? In this respect , the two satge ?Denmak ?Viking ?gasifier ?has two stges<br>
>> :pyrolysis , steam gasification pliot plant are ?very ?well demonstrated ?,<br>
>> in which the engine exhaust are used to maintain the tempertaure ?in<br>
>> pyrlolysis as in GEK , the hot air and steam are recoverd from gasifier.<br>
>> Surley there are ?experimental ?published work ?is available<br>
>> <a href="http://www.bgg.mek.dtu.dk/Publications.aspxot" target="_blank">http://www.bgg.mek.dtu.dk/Publications.aspxot</a><br>
>> Not only steam air ?ratio, but ?how ?this can be used are important points ,<br>
>> realy ?we do not have ?answer.<br>
>> if you wish to use ?steam in pyrolysis , this need to be the superheated one<br>
>> , as superheated ?steam is well proved to be ?good for combustion , this can<br>
>> help cracking ?Carbon carbon bonds, tars etc.<br>
>> Experimental results ?are lacking but you can serach several patents,where<br>
>> you ?can surely find the correct answer.<br>
>> Opensource google , several sites make possible very quick search ?abou the<br>
>> same<br>
>><br>
>> ? GeK gasifier design is ok , there is an good scope to do operacional<br>
>> research ?to optimize ?, minimize fuel consumption , make goodquality gas ,<br>
>> improve overall energy efficienmcy.Recent two piston ecomotors ?are under<br>
>> fast developments which combined with GEK gasifier , operating like viking<br>
>> well proven can make possible as practical ?small energy genertion with low<br>
>> investments<br>
>> ? ? ? ?As you have ?open mind ?and open source ?ecobusiness model , making<br>
>> ?money from biomass waste can be reality , an proven ?very soon , yet ?now<br>
>> is an dream for many not an economicaly viable business, but technicaly<br>
>> feasible ?as your well made GEK gasifier working demonstrated<br>
>> ? ?Wish you all the sucess and thank you for your open minded ?sharing<br>
>> information ?of technical information ?with our list, I am happy ?to see You<br>
>> as an example and good model of other business ?venture bioenergy making<br>
>> ?private ?company ?to share not only the problems , but also ?share ?several<br>
>> important technical solution ?with open mind along with this ?list members,<br>
>> eventhough top secret, stat of art technology one ?can keep awy from the<br>
>> list<br>
>> Welcome you to bring here the problems and the real?isseu?and I ?am sure<br>
>> ?good way ?will be shown by several experts<br>
>> Yours truely<br>
>> Pannirselvam P.V<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:05 PM, jim mason <<a href="mailto:jim@allpowerlabs.org">jim@allpowerlabs.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> on the road to reducing problems in the reactor so there are less<br>
>>> issues to deal with in filtering, here's a new question.<br>
>>><br>
>>> does anyone know where to look for experimental results on the impacts<br>
>>> of increased steam in pyrolysis environments? ? my hunch is that<br>
>>> increased steam will lessen the production of PAHs and general double<br>
>>> carbon bonded refractory tars. ?we know we can do this by reducing<br>
>>> pyrolysis temp and slowing the ramp rate, but will steam also help<br>
>>> with this?<br>
>>><br>
>>> the literature shows a marked decrease in soot production in<br>
>>> combustion environments where there is high steam. ?steam apparently<br>
>>> interrupts the agglomeration on the PAH nucleus. ?thus to the degree<br>
>>> we can maintain adequate temps, steam is helping us with soot<br>
>>> reduction.<br>
>>><br>
>>> but what about during pyrolysis? ?does it reduce PAH production? ?do<br>
>>> it have other marked effects on the type of tars make? ?in general,<br>
>>> are there wins to be had with steam in pyrolysis that make things<br>
>>> meaningfully easier to deal with downstream?<br>
>>><br>
>>> i'm about at the end of what i can do on temp control during<br>
>>> pyrolysis. ?i'm hoping there is another route to engage to continue<br>
>>> improving the outputs of the pyrolysis stage.<br>
>>><br>
>>> j<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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>>><br>
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> ------------------------------<br>
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> Message: 5<br>
> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 16:15:32 -0400<br>
> From: Thomas Reed <<a href="mailto:tombreed2010@gmail.com">tombreed2010@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: STOVES <<a href="mailto:stoves-request@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves-request@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>, Discussion of<br>
> biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br>
> <<a href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>, Shivayam Ellis<br>
> <<a href="mailto:shivayam.ellis@gmail.com">shivayam.ellis@gmail.com</a>>, Agua Das <<a href="mailto:aguadas@onebox.com">aguadas@onebox.com</a>>, Paul<br>
> Anderson <<a href="mailto:psanders@ilstu.edu">psanders@ilstu.edu</a>>, William Ayres <<a href="mailto:waayres@kc.rr.com">waayres@kc.rr.com</a>>,<br>
> Michael Antal <<a href="mailto:mantal@hawaii.edu">mantal@hawaii.edu</a>>, Julia Hasty <<a href="mailto:jay@allpowerlabs.org">jay@allpowerlabs.org</a>>,<br>
> Art Krenzel <<a href="mailto:phoenix98604@msn.com">phoenix98604@msn.com</a>>, Art Lilley <<a href="mailto:artsolar@aol.com">artsolar@aol.com</a>><br>
> Subject: [Gasification] Sheet metal design and prototyping<br>
> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:9415B8C5-2385-4340-96AE-641E8F210B27@gmail.com">9415B8C5-2385-4340-96AE-641E8F210B27@gmail.com</a>><br>
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> Dear all<br>
><br>
> My exceedingly clever (God) Grandson, Shivayam Ellis (son of AguaDas Ellis) is starting a service at www.now <a href="http://cut.com" target="_blank">cut.com</a> to provide prototype sheet metal parts from his X-Y cutting table, described below.<br>
><br>
> Hard to beat.<br>
><br>
> TomReed - BEF<br>
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