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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>…with Liberty and Justice for All (who can afford it!)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org [mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>phillip manske<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 24, 2011 10:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gasification] Off topic request to sign petition<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Toby,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>You sound ticked off, welcome to the USA. I have avoided going to law school as I feel there are too any but none the less I feel closeted. The charges you make make me want to ask more questions for clarification. I think a trial over your concern or grievances would be difficult. Going to court without an attorney smacks of stubbornness and perhaps desperation and that is a red flag. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><a href="http://outlawjudges.org/RampoantJudicialFraud.aspx">http://outlawjudges.org/RampoantJudicialFraud.aspx</a> Google gave me that site to help explain the fraud you describe. Close?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><a href="http://www.judicialwatch.org/">http://www.judicialwatch.org/</a> may be an organization for you.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Good luck!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Phillip<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Toby Seiler <<a href="mailto:seilertechco@yahoo.com">seilertechco@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Thanks Bob, you are so right that this requires a US Zip code and that it does affect you, even if indirectly.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>I would hope that the subject of judges requiring truth in a court of law, is universal and not irrelevent to those outside of the US.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>I have been involved now in three court cases as the Plaintiff, with and without an attorney and in each one the judge has assisted the defense to take my property without paying for it. All have that commonality. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>I'm witnessing court at the local level and the state level that refuse to curtail open, judicially noticed attorney fraud, extorting title under color of law. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>The judges are assisting the thieves who have obviously paid thier attorneys handsomely to help them avoid liability AND keep my stolen property. They got $70k of my skin in 2003 and some real property recently.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Three cases filed...three frauds that judges had actual knowledge of the fraud, allowed it to continue against objection (did it anyway ignoring rules of court) then pretend, even "certify" to the DOJ that it was done correctly. Open, judicially noticed fraud prevailed in court AND on appeal. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Judges are alligned with corrupt attorneys and thieves and honest services cannot be expected....which is the true demise of a republic, I believe. Apparently thieves and their attorneys make big campain contributions. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Even more shocking is that nothing is being done to curtail it because our legislators and executive (President) are members of the bar (attorney licence) and will not act to "check" abuse in the judiciary, because they will loose their license. That's verifiable fact, not conjecture, which I will gadly provide proof to anyone personally. Their retaliation is swift.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>It's a conflict of interest showing itself, facilitating the judicial and financial class rise to power which acts to subvert freedoms and our constitution for most people while our executive and legislators do nothing. God help us because judicial nihilism is upon us,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Anarchy in the US will have profound effects and without some serious change of course, the titanic is going to strike the iceburg and it will surely pull others down with it. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>On the bright side I have about 8 signatures of 5000 and about 26 days left. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><span style='color:#888888'>Toby Seiler<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><span style='color:#888888'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><span style='color:#888888'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Gasification mailing list<br><br>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br><a href="mailto:Gasification@bioenergylists.org">Gasification@bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><br>for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site:<br><a href="http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/" target="_blank">http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>