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In my beer making days, not forgetting the wine making. I would lie awake at nights wondering how to improve performance, Your comment on the removal of the "Product of reaction"</div>
<div>is extremely relevant the main product which was ethanol, If I could remove the ethanol from the brew and just add sugar when required I could go from batch production to continuous production, this I suspect, is what really hapens commercially. There are obviously membranes which will retain water but not ethanol. so with a few pumps filters and plumbing</div>
<div>a continuous flow of beer is possable, I am not sure your recommendation of vacuuming the CO2 would improve the speed of the yield. I thought when molecules are squeezed together they get more reactive so a CO2 atmosphere under pressure bearing down on the brew would help some what. But then if the pressure was suddenly released, the yeast could get an attack of the Bends,</div>
<div>The main object in these discussions, concern methods of making and improving the thermal value BTU content of gas produced from Biomass. There are a number of un tried processes and methods which require investigation, The most promising of which is the production of flammable gas which does not contain nitrogen. The pyrolysis of biomass in a retort heated by the exhaust of an ICE sounds good. so if we added "superheated steam" to the contents of the retort, is this water shift reaction sustainable? if the steam has a higher temperature than the retort?</div>
<div>The gasses that leave the retort will need further processing, so I believe there should be an ionization chamber through which these gasses should be "recirculated" using a vane pump </div>
<div>as used on todays emision control systems. Electrodeless "Ionization" is not a big deal unless you are scared of electricity.</div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Kevin <kchisholm@ca.inter.net><br>
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<div><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Dear GF</FONT></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=gfwhell@aol.com href="mailto:gfwhell@aol.com">GF</A> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mark@ludlow.com href="mailto:mark@ludlow.com">mark@ludlow.com</A> ; <A title=gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</A> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 07, 2011 3:46 PM</div>
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<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi Mark.</SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> I think my message was incoherent. When I mention the build up of pressure in a vessel containing multiplying organisms, I did not mention the presence of "heat" which is the basis of Luis Pasteur’s method of sterilization or the speed at which the pressure builds, which might entail an adverse heat reaction, Yeast seems to build up pressure of several atmospheres if contained in a sealed container, does this enhance the reaction or slow it down, and what are the "limits"? </SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN> </div>
<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"># In a fermentation reaction, "Sugar ----> Alcohol + CO2", all other things being equal, this would be favoured by low pressure, and/or by removal of CO2, a "product of the reaction." If the reaction producing Methane was:</SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">6 CO + 2 H2O ---> 2 CH4+ 4 CO2,</SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">it would be favoured by high pressure, in that it starts with 8 volumes of reactants, and it yields 6 volumes of reactants. Again, this reaction would be improved by removing the products. </SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN> </div>
<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Studies at the bottom of the Pacific Trench show bacteria alive and well together with larger forms of life. My question goes UN answered.</SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Will gas producing bacteria perform” faster” in a pressure retaining environment?</SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN> </div>
<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"># All other things being equal, reaction speed is favoured by higher temperature, higher concentration of reactants, and low concentration of products of the reaction. Higher pressure tends to move a reaction in the direction of lower volume. On teh other hand, exothermic reactions are favoured by cooling, and endothermic reactions are favoured by heating.</SPAN></div>
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<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"># Now, having said all that, the fact that a bacteria or yeast is a living species, it may be that "reaction conditions" may have to be varied to optomise teh "living conditions" for the bacteria/yeast, and thermodynamic conditions may have to be given second place. </SPAN></div>
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<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thus producing high pressure gas PDQ.</SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Im talking about high pressure here, 14000 psi. if you put your bacteria and nutrient in a respectable container without any air space the pressure would rise quite fast.</SPAN></div>
<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Of course a sudden decompression or re-compression may kill it, as you suggest but that is not </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">My question.</SPAN></div>
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<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"># Obviously, if the desired reactions seem to work well for such bacteria at 14,000 psi, then that would be the conditions to apply to them to drive that reaction. In th case of beer yeasts, they seem to work well at atmospheric pressure ranges... say from .5 to 2X atmospheric. Much higher pressures may stall them out.</SPAN></div>
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<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Best wishes,</SPAN></div>
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<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Kevin</SPAN></div>
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<div><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">GF</SPAN></div>
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<div class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</A> [<A href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org?">mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>GF<br>
<B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 06, 2011 5:51 PM<br>
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<B>Subject:</B> Re: [Gasification] [Digestion] Karve connecting Biochar and Biogas</SPAN></div>
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<div style="MARGIN-TOP: 4pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I seem to remeber the filter beds laid down with "coke"derived from the GAS WORKS to enhance the bacterial action on sewage.It is interesting to postulate the possibilities of testing other ziolite qualities in other materials than char. The reaction of bacteria over a nutriant soaked porous media especially when it is soaked with recirculated liquids from behind the scum board which retains the larger solids. This raises a question I have long pondered. Is microbial action accelerated by pressure. If this reaction is contained within a pressure vessel? For instance :</SPAN></div>
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<div style="MARGIN-TOP: 4pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">what sort of result could we expect if this bacterial action took place at say 9000lb per sq inch, give or take a few atmospheres. I have heard that beer bottles explode if unchecked during fermentation, is the generation of gasses increased with pressure forcing the nutrient down the throat of the microbes as it were?</SPAN></div>
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From: back40 <<A href="mailto:back40@gmail.com">back40@gmail.com</A>><br>
To: paul.harris <<A href="mailto:paul.harris@adelaide.edu.au">paul.harris@adelaide.edu.au</A>>; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <<A href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>><br>
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<div id=AOLMsgPart_0_e794fc62-68e6-4a25-8c28-008af08ba762><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I wonder if this is relevant:</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A href="http://newscenter.lbl.gov/feature-stories/2011/10/05/soil-carbon/" target=_blank>http://newscenter.lbl.gov/feature-stories/2011/10/05/soil-carbon/</A></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">"Michael Schmidt, a co-author of the Nature paper from the University</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">of Zurich, has already found that biochar, which is charred material</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">from wildfires or a kiln, is not stable as previously believed. It</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">also readily decomposes. Some scientists had believed that biochar</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">could be used to sequester carbon, but this may not be the case."</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">On 10/6/11, Paul Harris <<A href="mailto:paul.harris@adelaide.edu.au">paul.harris@adelaide.edu.au</A>> wrote:</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> G’day All,</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> For the “non digesters” in particular some anaerobic digesters are packed</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> with plastic rings/balls or other media to provide a surface for bacteria,</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> so what Dr Karve has possibly done (I am guessing here) is provided “homes”</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> for a lot more bacteria so they are not washed out. This is good for</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> solutions but not so good if there are solids in the waste stream.</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> The other possibility is that the extra carbon has restored the C:N ratio.</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> Could you give more details of what you did Dr Karve, if it is possible (I</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> understand you may have some commercial interests to protect)?</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> Happy digesting,</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> HOOROO</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> Mr. Paul Harris, Room 202 Charles Hawker Building, Faculty of Sciences, The</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> University of Adelaide,</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> Waite Campus, PMB 1, Glen Osmond SA 5064 Ph : +61 8 8303 7880 Fax :</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> +61 8 8303 4386</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> Roseworthy Campus, Ph : +61 8 8303 7929</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> <A href="mailto:paul.harris@adelaide.edu.au?">mailto:paul.harris@adelaide.edu.au</A></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> <A href="http://www.adelaide.edu.au/directory/paul.harris" target=_blank>http://www.adelaide.edu.au/directory/paul.harris</A></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> CRICOS Provider Number 00123M</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> information that may be confidential and/or copyright. 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In</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> particular, you say you ".. filled the digester</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> with charcoal, my system accepted three times the normal daily input</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> and produced three times as much gas."</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> I think what you describe can be a very powerful push for both Biochar and</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> Biogas. Can you describe what you have learned a little more?</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> I know too little of digesters, so this is not clear. I think I know</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> your kitchen-sized inverted "barrel" gas chamber and think I understand the</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> last part - of getting three times as much gas in the next 24 hours or less</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> (and 3X is a huge change!). Does the idea of accepting three times more</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> mean essentially the same thing? I would think you could "jam" any amount</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> in; what limits acceptance?</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> Do you agree that this is very important new information? Do you agree</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> this information could help speed up both technologies? I believe there is</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> wide agreement that Biochar benefits from added biological material (that</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> would not be long-lived from a sequestration perspective). Is there any</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> reason to think that the traditional use of digester effluent for ag</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> improvements will be in any way harmed if it is continued through the</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> addition of carbon-negative Biochar? Should this not promote sales of your</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> charcoal-making stoves?</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> If I haven't asked quite the right question - please answer the right</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> one. And congratulations on learning and reporting this.</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> Ron</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">-- </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Regards,</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Gary Jones</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">_______________________________________________</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Gasification mailing list</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">to Send a Message to the list, use the email address</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A href="mailto:Gasification@bioenergylists.org">Gasification@bioenergylists.org</A></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org" target=_blank>http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org</A></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site:</SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A href="http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/" target=_blank>http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/</A></SPAN></TT></PRE></div>
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