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<DIV>I am interested in producing O 3 or O 4 For use as a sanitizer. I
have had some success in producing this short lived gas using ionization with
high voltage and glass covered electrodes.</DIV>
<DIV>The ionization of gasses using selective frequencies may have some use in
the gasification field.</DIV>
<DIV>I suppose O3 is higher on the energy scale than O as it seems more
reactive, I am wondering if O 3 would have any effect in a pyrolitic reaction.
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<DIV>Cracking water at high temperature necessitates the production of an oxide
in order to free the hydrogen.</DIV>
<DIV>Ionizing hot gasses in the presence of a suitable catalyst might possibly
increase the hyrdogen content of the gas. </DIV>
<DIV>I assume if you produce CO 3 , it will eventually turn into C O2 +
O?</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 3/18/2012 2:35:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
tombreed2010@gmail.com writes:</DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><FONT
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>Dear
Anand and all:<BR><BR>Your question below on molecular sieves opened a LARGE
box in the attic of my mind.<BR><BR>In 1952 I worked for the Linde Air
(oxygen) Company, now Praxis Air. They make and sell liquid nitrogen,
oxygen and air by the truckload!<BR><BR>My degree is in x-ray
crystallography, determining the structure of molecules from their x-ray
diffraction patterns. My first job was to understand how oxygen cut
steel in a torch process widely used since 1900, but I played bridge at
lunchtime with another group working on molecular sieves. <BR><BR>One
day one partner was missing, so I asked the others what they were working
on. They said they were developing "Molecular Sieves". These are
three dimensional alumina-silicate minerals now found in nature and
manufactured for catalysts. They told me that they hoped to be able to
separate oxygen from nirogen using such a sieve. <BR><BR>They were
successful. One often sees people dragging a small cart which
makes 90% oxygen from air for those with difficulty breathing.
<BR><BR><><><><><BR><BR>The "A" sieve is one of the
most widely used. I asked my friends what the structure of the sieve
was. They told me that Linus Pauling was one of their consultants, and
that he told them it might take years to work out the structure, and that they
would need to have a "single crystal", rather than the powder available.
<BR><BR>I took this as a challenge, and worked out the structure on my own
time. I was given a $5,000 prize by the Liinde Company for the work, and
we published in the Journal of the American Chemical Society (JACS) in the mid
1950s. <BR><BR>The A sieve has a 10 Angstrom cubic unit cell that has a
6 Angstrom "window" in each of the six faces of the cube. I have 25 lb
in my lab that I bought a year ago. I have doped each unit cell with a
few atoms of iron, and hope that it will be a superior catalyst for making
ammonia (Haber-Bosch process) or oil (Fischer-Tropsch process).<BR><BR>I have
two colleagues that I sent samples of the sieve for testing, AND I AM WAITING
for their reports. <BR><BR>If anyone else is interested, write me.
<BR><BR>Thomas B Reed <BR><BR><BR>On Mar 18, 2012, at 12:51 AM, Anand Karve
<adkarve@gmail.com> wrote:<BR><BR>> Dear workers of stoves and
gasifiers,<BR>> when one uses atmospheric air as a source of oxygen, one
unnecessarily heats up the nitrogen in the air. This nitrogen ultimately goes
out of the chimney, taking with it a lot of heat. The technologies based on
wood as fuel are pretty old, but one can revive them, using some of the more
recent techniques. A person who owns a foundry told me that a moleular sieve
was now available for separating nitrogen from oxygen. Has anybody heard of
it? Can it be used in producing a better stove and a better gasifier?<BR>>
Yours<BR>> A.D.Karve <BR>> <BR>> -- <BR>> ***<BR>> Dr.
A.D. Karve<BR>> Trustee & Founder President, Appropriate Rural
Technology Institute (ARTI)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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