Dear Dr Dough .William , Thomas and Leland Tom Taylor<div><br></div><div> The issue Dough bring here are the most relevant technical problems , mostly unsolved , every one have their state of art practical solutions for the same .</div>
<div><br></div><div> We are involved with the innovative Novall design related to this enery and environmental problems </div><div><br></div><div> In some small scale operated by small scale in remote area of Amazon are , the tar are well recycled back , naturally we also are limited to the amounts , as yet we have little data on the quality about the gas </div>
<div> we also studying the possibility to use bio oil and alos washing latter , water washing so that the aquous thus they can resource as Biodeisel and biogas opportunity </div><div><br></div><div> The successful nano small car Tata Gasifier all are made with blower air input .</div>
<div><br></div><div>Some of Brazilian very old 1970-80 gasifier has solved the natural air flow , where our list coordinator had very good practical experience.</div><div><br></div><div> Small CHP smart grid, now can be reality by legislation in Brazil , thus the local energy company can now purchase excess energy produced by any company , as the energy demand and energy price are very high.Any new investor are welcome , as few from Europe and India already in Brazilian enery market .</div>
<div> In this context very good opportunity are there in Brazil .As once Dough has pointed out we are also taking care to use renewable tree pruning of cashew as raw material to make our project sustainable. In this context , very good Dough bring hear relevant questions , but the very good blue flame achieved by <span style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px">Reliable Renewables, LLC</span><span style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px"> well shown by the company indeed great hope and good future those who work to make possible energy from biomass wastes .</span></div>
<div><font face="helvetica, arial"> </font></div><div><font face="helvetica, arial"> Critical analysis and comments about this design solutions are very important issue to our big list</font></div><div><br></div><div><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 6:24 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:linvent@aol.com" target="_blank">linvent@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<font color="black" face="arial"><span style="background-color:transparent">Dear Thomas,</span>
<div><span style="background-color:transparent"></span> Ah, yes, a narrow range system. I agree and what do you do with piles of char? </div>
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>For those who have better specs, it takes one with in-depth knowledge to ask the right questions and understand the value in the market place. <div class="im"><br>
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<div style="clear:both"><font face="arial">Sincerely,</font><br>
<div><font face="'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif">Leland T. "Tom" Taylor</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thermogenics Inc. </font></div>
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</div><div><div class="h5"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:helvetica,arial">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Thomas Koch <<a href="mailto:tk@tke.dk" target="_blank">tk@tke.dk</a>><br>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <<a href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>>; Doug.Williams <<a href="mailto:Doug.Williams@orcon.net.nz" target="_blank">Doug.Williams@orcon.net.nz</a>>; gasification <<a href="mailto:gasification@bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">gasification@bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
Sent: Sun, Jul 22, 2012 11:44 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?<br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">On their homepage you find the folloving information:</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN">Reliable Renewables, LLC produces about 1.5 tons of biochar a day from a 1MW or 330MMBtu/day energy center fueled by woodchips. Biochar yield will vary
based upon species of fuel.</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN">1,5 tons/day = 62,5 kg/hour of 25 MJ/kg = 430 kW charloss I like to call it.
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN">I do not understand how one can make value out of these 430 kW? Unless they Are gasified.
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN">Best regards</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN">Thomas</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Fra:</span></b><span> <a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org?" target="_blank">mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>]
<b>På vegne af </b><a href="mailto:linvent@aol.com" target="_blank">linvent@aol.com</a><br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 23. juli 2012 00:08<br>
<b>Til:</b> <a href="mailto:Doug.Williams@orcon.net.nz" target="_blank">Doug.Williams@orcon.net.nz</a>; <a href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>; <a href="mailto:gasification@bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">gasification@bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<b>Emne:</b> Re: [Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span><span>Dear Doug,</span></span><span>
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</span></span><span>Looks good, let's see where there might be devils: </span></div>
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</span>Down draft, needs pelleted or larger sized feedstock? </span></div>
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</span>what happens to the removed tars and of course water? </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span>3. <span>
</span>Cyclones are unneeded if designed right</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span>4. <span>
</span>ESP's are obsolete. </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span>5.<span>
</span>Ash C content? </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span>6. <span>
</span>Blowers after the fact are less efficient than before the reactor. Operating in a negative pressure asks for leaks and possible explosions.</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span>7.<span>
</span>Control system way too complicated. </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span>8.
<span> </span>Cost of course. </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span>Sincerely,</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span>Leland T. "Tom" Taylor</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span>Thermogenics Inc. </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: doug.williams <<a href="mailto:Doug.Williams@orcon.net.nz" target="_blank">Doug.Williams@orcon.net.nz</a>><br>
To: gasification <<a href="mailto:gasification@bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">gasification@bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
Sent: Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:53 pm<br>
Subject: [Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><strong><span>Hi Gasification Colleagues,</span></strong><span></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><strong><span>I was sent this link a few days ago, seeking clarification of the information about this gasification system.</span></strong><span></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span><a href="http://www.rrbtu.com/technology/" target="_blank"><strong><span>http://www.rrbtu.com/technology/</span></strong></a><strong><span> </span></strong><b><br clear="all">
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</span><strong><span>With all the accumulative experience available to this forum as specifically applied to producer gas, how well does this present information to an ignorant potential
user? Is it possible to accept all that is said, given that as a presentation, it suggests that they have resolved all the environmental issues that water scrubbers present? </span></strong><span></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><strong><span>The executive team comes with a lot of experience, and it looks like considerable financial support, so is this a system that is heading for success, given
that so many others have failed in the USA?</span></strong><span></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><strong><span>Doug Williams,</span></strong><span></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><strong><span>Fluidyne.</span></strong><span></span></div>
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