<font color='black' size='2' face='arial'><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: transparent;">Dear Thomas,</span>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: transparent;"></span> Ah, yes, a narrow range system. I agree and what do you do with piles of char? </div>
<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>For those who have better specs, it takes one with in-depth knowledge to ask the right questions and understand the value in the market place. <br>
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<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Comic Sans MS', sans-serif">Leland T. "Tom" Taylor</font></div>
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<div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Thomas Koch <tk@tke.dk><br>
To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification <gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org>; Doug.Williams <Doug.Williams@orcon.net.nz>; gasification <gasification@bioenergylists.org><br>
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Subject: Re: [Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?<br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">On their homepage you find the folloving information:</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:">Reliable Renewables, LLC produces about 1.5 tons of biochar a day from a 1MW or 330MMBtu/day energy center fueled by woodchips. Biochar yield will vary
based upon species of fuel.</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:">1,5 tons/day = 62,5 kg/hour of 25 MJ/kg = 430 kW charloss I like to call it.
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:">I do not understand how one can make value out of these 430 kW? Unless they Are gasified.
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:">Best regards</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Fra:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"> <a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a> [<a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org?">mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>]
<b>På vegne af </b><a href="mailto:linvent@aol.com">linvent@aol.com</a><br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 23. juli 2012 00:08<br>
<b>Til:</b> <a href="mailto:Doug.Williams@orcon.net.nz">Doug.Williams@orcon.net.nz</a>; <a href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>; <a href="mailto:gasification@bioenergylists.org">gasification@bioenergylists.org</a><br>
<b>Emne:</b> Re: [Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?</span></div>
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</span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Looks good, let's see where there might be devils: </span></div>
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</span>Down draft, needs pelleted or larger sized feedstock? </span></div>
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</span>what happens to the removed tars and of course water? </span></div>
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</span>ESP's are obsolete. </span></div>
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</span>Ash C content? </span></div>
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</span>Blowers after the fact are less efficient than before the reactor. Operating in a negative pressure asks for leaks and possible explosions.</span></div>
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<span class="apple-tab-span"> </span>Cost of course. </span></div>
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From: doug.williams <<a href="mailto:Doug.Williams@orcon.net.nz">Doug.Williams@orcon.net.nz</a>><br>
To: gasification <<a href="mailto:gasification@bioenergylists.org">gasification@bioenergylists.org</a>><br>
Sent: Sun, Jul 22, 2012 2:53 pm<br>
Subject: [Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">I was sent this link a few days ago, seeking clarification of the information about this gasification system.</span></strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"></span></div>
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</span><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">With all the accumulative experience available to this forum as specifically applied to producer gas, how well does this present information to an ignorant potential
user? Is it possible to accept all that is said, given that as a presentation, it suggests that they have resolved all the environmental issues that water scrubbers present? </span></strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">The executive team comes with a lot of experience, and it looks like considerable financial support, so is this a system that is heading for success, given
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