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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alex<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You are right – my explanatiion is not very clear.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In Denmark the electricity price that a producer can sell at varies between 4 and 10 €c/kWh – most of the time – 5-7 €c/kWh. On top of that is
a green premium to guaranteed price. For gasifiers it is 10 €c/kWh – 74,5 øre/kWh - as far as I remember. The comsumer pays aprox 30 €c/kWh.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If you use natural gas you pay approx. 1,2 €/m3 ~ 11-12 €c/kWh + plus cost of gas furnace.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In this market where a gasifier can sell electricity for 100 €/MWh and heat at 70-80-90 €/MWh (due to the losses in the transmission grid there
are no money to pay the extra investment from a biomass boiler to a biomass gasifier. If you also take in account that the char losses on tha gasifier can be 4-10 times higher than for a boiler you end up at a loss.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">This calculations can be different for different locations – eg. in Italy there has been extremely high green premiums (250-300 €/MWh) for a period.
But it does not really help if the technology developers does not trust the Italian politicians.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Did that help you?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Fra:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org [mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org]
<b>På vegne af </b>Alex English<br>
<b>Sendt:</b> 29. juli 2012 19:21<br>
<b>Til:</b> gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>
<b>Emne:</b> Re: [Gasification] Potential Gasification Winner?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thomas,<br>
I don't understand your comment.<br>
Could you describe how the price of heat and electricity have changed to make "heat more expensive than electricity".<br>
Thanks,<br>
Alex English<br>
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On 29/07/2012 8:23 AM, Thomas Koch wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">But - now heat is more expensive than electricity – and the cost level we have reached is 2-10 times the market price.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And of course none of the plants are no where near a commercial product (apart from one that is close to – but 2-4 times too expensive) because
the investors are looking for projects that have a chance of being competitive with in 2-10 years.
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