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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>So what basically was the problem? Seems like if it were done right there would be a profit.<br> <BR><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> From: gasification-request@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>> Subject: Gasification Digest, Vol 28, Issue 6<br>> To: gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:00:36 -0800<br>> <br>> Send Gasification mailing list submissions to<br>> gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>> <br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org<br>> <br>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>> gasification-request@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>> <br>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>> gasification-owner@lists.bioenergylists.org<br>> <br>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> than "Re: Contents of Gasification digest..."<br>> <br>> <br>> Today's Topics:<br>> <br>> 1. ICM gasifier project comes to a close (Tom Miles)<br>> 2. Re: ICM gasifier project comes to a close (Mark Ludlow)<br>> <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:08:46 -0800<br>> From: "Tom Miles" <tmiles@trmiles.com><br>> To: <biochar@yahoogroups.com>, "Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and<br>> gasification" <gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org><br>> Subject: [Gasification] ICM gasifier project comes to a close<br>> Message-ID: <001601cddedd$0e6485e0$2b2d91a0$@trmiles.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br>> <br>> The article below demonstrates how difficult it Is to convert urban residues<br>> to heat, power and biochar in today's economy. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> I observed that technically the ICM gasifier worked very well. The ICM<br>> gasifier can take wood, straw or corn stover and convert it to gas and<br>> biochar in various proportions. It makes a good quality biochar that has<br>> been tested in various locations. I was impressed by the fuel flexibility. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> The economic challenges are manifold: if it is not feasible to generate and<br>> sell heat or power and biochar at one location then you can't generate the<br>> cash flow necessary to run the plant. We hope that Bert Bennett and his<br>> team at ICM can find a suitable customer. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Tom <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ICM gasifier project comes to a close<br>> <br>> By Ashley Bergner Newton Kansan <br>> <br>> December 20. 2012 11:00AM<br>> <br>> <br>> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.thekansan.com/article/20121220/<br>> NEWS/121229996&ct=ga&cad=CAcQARgBIAEoBDAAOABAzqHNhgVIAVgAYgJlbg&cd=mAamQLVPr<br>> YU&usg=AFQjCNGqPGDj3bZoRcalSu1ANFxADLmT9A><br>> www.thekansan.com/article/20121220/NEWS/121229996<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> The decommissioning of ICM's prototype gasifier at the Harvey County<br>> Transfer Station marks an end - or at least a postponement - of the county's<br>> vision of a viable waste-to-energy system.<br>> At Monday's county commission meeting, officials announced the project would<br>> be coming to a close, and within six months, all the equipment will be taken<br>> down.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> "It would bring to a halt our hopes ... of what would be a waste-to-energy<br>> facility," said John Waltner, county administrator.<br>> ICM's Biomass Gasification System, also known as a "gasifier," burns trash<br>> and converts it to synthetic gas, which can be used to generate power in<br>> industrial and commercial settings. ICM tested thousands of tons of<br>> different types of waste, which are referred to as "feedstocks." Feedstocks<br>> tested included wood chips, wheat straw and refuse-derived fuel (this<br>> includes junk mail, cardboard and other paper products thrown away).<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Using a gasifier to convert Harvey County trash into energy had once<br>> appeared to be a possibility. The Harvey County facility likely would have<br>> needed to burn 90 tons of trash per day, a number officials had thought the<br>> county could reach.<br>> ICM plans to try to market the technology in a different area, perhaps<br>> overseas.<br>> Despite the county's disappointment the project wasn't ultimately viable<br>> here in Harvey County, they said their experience working with ICM was<br>> positive.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> "It really has been just a terrific exercise for us," Waltner said.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Commission chair Marge Roberson agreed."It feels really good that Harvey<br>> County had the tenacity to push to take a good, hard look at doing something<br>> with trash other than putting it in the ground," she said. "I absolutely do<br>> not regret any moment we've spent with this partnership."<br>> <br>> <br>> Waltner does believe the technology will be prove to be viable in the<br>> future.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> "They're going to be successful," he said of the company. "This is something<br>> that's going to happen."<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20121220/5ecee0fd/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 10:43:37 -0800<br>> From: "Mark Ludlow" <mark@ludlow.com><br>> To: "'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'"<br>> <gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org><br>> Subject: Re: [Gasification] ICM gasifier project comes to a close<br>> Message-ID: <078701cddee1$ecc31c30$c6495490$@ludlow.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<br>> <br>> Any other state except a Red State mostly believing in Creationism and<br>> totally disbelieving in AGW would have seen that this experiment continued.<br>> What a shame!<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink!<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Mark<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> From: Gasification [mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] On<br>> Behalf Of Tom Miles<br>> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:09 AM<br>> To: biochar@yahoogroups.com; Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and<br>> gasification<br>> Subject: [Gasification] ICM gasifier project comes to a close<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> The article below demonstrates how difficult it Is to convert urban residues<br>> to heat, power and biochar in today's economy. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> I observed that technically the ICM gasifier worked very well. The ICM<br>> gasifier can take wood, straw or corn stover and convert it to gas and<br>> biochar in various proportions. It makes a good quality biochar that has<br>> been tested in various locations. I was impressed by the fuel flexibility. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> The economic challenges are manifold: if it is not feasible to generate and<br>> sell heat or power and biochar at one location then you can't generate the<br>> cash flow necessary to run the plant. We hope that Bert Bennett and his<br>> team at ICM can find a suitable customer. <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Tom <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ICM gasifier project comes to a close<br>> <br>> By Ashley Bergner Newton Kansan <br>> <br>> December 20. 2012 11:00AM<br>> <br>> <br>> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.thekansan.com/article/20121220/<br>> NEWS/121229996&ct=ga&cad=CAcQARgBIAEoBDAAOABAzqHNhgVIAVgAYgJlbg&cd=mAamQLVPr<br>> YU&usg=AFQjCNGqPGDj3bZoRcalSu1ANFxADLmT9A><br>> www.thekansan.com/article/20121220/NEWS/121229996<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> The decommissioning of ICM's prototype gasifier at the Harvey County<br>> Transfer Station marks an end - or at least a postponement - of the county's<br>> vision of a viable waste-to-energy system.<br>> At Monday's county commission meeting, officials announced the project would<br>> be coming to a close, and within six months, all the equipment will be taken<br>> down.<br>> <br>> "It would bring to a halt our hopes ... of what would be a waste-to-energy<br>> facility," said John Waltner, county administrator.<br>> ICM's Biomass Gasification System, also known as a "gasifier," burns trash<br>> and converts it to synthetic gas, which can be used to generate power in<br>> industrial and commercial settings. ICM tested thousands of tons of<br>> different types of waste, which are referred to as "feedstocks." Feedstocks<br>> tested included wood chips, wheat straw and refuse-derived fuel (this<br>> includes junk mail, cardboard and other paper products thrown away).<br>> <br>> Using a gasifier to convert Harvey County trash into energy had once<br>> appeared to be a possibility. The Harvey County facility likely would have<br>> needed to burn 90 tons of trash per day, a number officials had thought the<br>> county could reach.<br>> ICM plans to try to market the technology in a different area, perhaps<br>> overseas.<br>> Despite the county's disappointment the project wasn't ultimately viable<br>> here in Harvey County, they said their experience working with ICM was<br>> positive.<br>> <br>> "It really has been just a terrific exercise for us," Waltner said.<br>> <br>> Commission chair Marge Roberson agreed."It feels really good that Harvey<br>> County had the tenacity to push to take a good, hard look at doing something<br>> with trash other than putting it in the ground," she said. "I absolutely do<br>> not regret any moment we've spent with this partnership."<br>> <br>> <br>> Waltner does believe the technology will be prove to be viable in the<br>> future.<br>> <br>> "They're going to be successful," he said of the company. "This is something<br>> that's going to happen."<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: <http://lists.bioenergylists.org/pipermail/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org/attachments/20121220/93821731/attachment-0001.html><br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Subject: Digest Footer<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Gasification mailing list<br>> <br>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<br>> Gasification@bioenergylists.org<br>> <br>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<br>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org<br>> <br>> for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site:<br>> http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> End of Gasification Digest, Vol 28, Issue 6<br>> *******************************************<br></div> </div></body>
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