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The notion of running a steam engine in conjunction with Internal Combustion comes up frequently. Usually, there are two problems. One is that the scheme produces low-pressure steam, so it is barely worth the effort. The other is that it seldom produces much steam for one very simple reason. Look at an old steam locomotive. Big Firebox, Huge Boiler, Tiny Cylinders. It takes about 11 sq ft. of boiler tube area per HP, with a dedicated fire.<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Bob Stuart</div><div><br><div><div>On 4-Feb-13, at 4:15 PM, Toby Seiler wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div>"steam is definitely not sexy in the renewable energy world".</div><div> </div><div>Go back to the "Stanley Steamer" and study the boiler. I think about 1500 of them were sold and there were no boiler explosions (that I found). When checking with Kennedy Tank, a similar boiler can be made using todays materials. From my research, it is the verticle firetube (and a lot of them) that is key, since the temperature has limits as long as it has ANY water in it. </div><div> </div><div>My boss at Bryan Steam was the ASME Section 7 Chairman for many years (in 1978) and they had built a steam car (around 1900) that we often discussed. He assured me steam would be back to "sexy" and I still believe this to be true, if one chooses a design that is inherently safer. </div><div> </div><div>Stanley Steamer held the world land speed record for a very long time (untill recently). That boiler was rated at 600psi but my guess is, at the speed record attempt they were well over 1000-1200f. There is a lot of stored energy in water that is not yet steam (due to pressure) and I often wonder about injecting super heated water into an engine, taking advantage of the 1600x expansion, liquid to vapor. </div><div> </div><div> </div></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Gasification mailing list</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">to Send a Message to the list, use the email address</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:Gasification@bioenergylists.org">Gasification@bioenergylists.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">for more Gasifiers,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>News and Information see our web site:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org">http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org</a>/</div> </blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>