<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Pete, from my research it takes a fairly consistent 1600+f and uses about 10,000 btu per pound of water to disassociate H20 thermally, taking into account the total (bound and free) water mass and where in the system it is introduced. Theoretically that energy is all recoverable. In practice I expect 50+% in low quality heat (which I need for drying laminate stock). </span></b></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'></span></b> </div><div
class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Some of the best H2 and CO (real syngas not producer gas) has been shown by General Atomics to be produced at 20psi. In my device, this is two seperate reactors, one a "reformer". But I 'm still having problems in the grate of the reformer with flows in four directions, so can't say I have a working prototype yet. Progress is slow but steady. </span></b></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'></span></b> </div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Toby Seiler</span></b></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>seilertechco</span></b></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><b><span
style='font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'></span></b> </div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'></span></b> </div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'></span></b> </div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> Gasification [mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pete & Sheri<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 4, 2013 11:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'doug.williams'; 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gasification] mycoremediation of tarry water</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><span style='color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>I probably have no business asking entering into this discussion since I am neither a chemist nor a physicist, but---</span></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Over the last several months I have been trying to learn the “truth” about the dissociation of the water in my wood chips into Hydrogen and oxygen. I had previously read someplace that it was a pretty simple process. You just heat water to somewhere above 350 degrees C and there you go.</span></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> Well, lately I have become quite disconcerted as I have read that there are so many other factors that can be involved, that it’s anybody’s guess as to whether it will happen at all.
</span></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Some of the variables:</span></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Pressure</span></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Temperature (obviously)</span></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Residence time</span></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Presence or absence of carbon and form of that carbon. And, apparently, the availability of carbon from other molecules.</span></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><span style='color:
rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>And apparently, the list goes on and on.</span></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>So what is an ordinary human with a stratified downdraft gasifier to do to reliably pry enough hydrogen out of the process to make it worth doing?</span></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'> </span></div><div class="yiv888560296MsoNormal"><span style='color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri", "sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Pete Stanaitis</span></div></div></body></html>