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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tom,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Burn it or bury it. Burn it to recover the energy as direct heat. Bury it in compost, blend it, or direct use. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think the Proton model is based on recovering the char. You’ll have to ask them directly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tom <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Gasification [mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>linvent@aol.com<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 10, 2013 6:26 AM<br><b>To:</b> gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gasification] Mini Grid Load Following With a Biomass Gasifier<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Re: Proton Power:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>What do you do with the bio-char? I do not want to hear of it's use in agriculture as an economic solution as it has spotty performance, limited market radius and a marketing cost. </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Leland T. "Tom" Taylor<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thermogenics Inc. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Tom Miles <<a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>><br>To: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' <<a href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>><br>Sent: Tue, Jul 9, 2013 10:40 am<br>Subject: Re: [Gasification] Mini Grid Load Following With a Biomass Gasifier<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_0_c558508c-feb7-4d8e-a4a6-8d70dd260c8c"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Spanner Re2. Contact Thomas Bleul </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.holz-kraft.de/de/?option=com_content&view=article&id=105&Itemid=2" target="_blank">http://www.holz-kraft.de/de/?option=com_content&view=article&id=105&Itemid=2</a> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>7&lang=en </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>There is a map of their reference plants on their site. </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.holz-kraft.de/en/applications/reference-list" target="_blank">http://www.holz-kraft.de/en/applications/reference-list</a> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://donar.messe.de/exhibitor/ligna/2013/R281924/presse-kit-spanner-re-eng" target="_blank">http://donar.messe.de/exhibitor/ligna/2013/R281924/presse-kit-spanner-re-eng</a> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>-256367.pdf </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>The company makes automotive equipment and moved into renewable energy and </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>wood heating appliances a few years ago. </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>For Proton the first commercial unit is being commissioned a the Wamplers </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Sausage site linked on their site. I think that they have run a 110 kWe </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>pilot unit at U Tennessee for a couple of years. </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Tom </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>-----Original Message----- </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>From: Gasification [<a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org?">mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] On </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Behalf Of Thomas Koch </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 9:10 AM </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Subject: Re: [Gasification] Mini Grid Load Following With a Biomass Gasifier </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Tom </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>I have never heard about the spanner gasifier - do you have a reference? </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>The proton system have a lot of very promising claims - where can it be seen </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>in reality? </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Thomas </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Fra: Gasification [<a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org?">mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] På </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>vegne af Tom Miles </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Sendt: 9. juli 2013 18:00 </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Til: 'Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification' </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Emne: Re: [Gasification] Mini Grid Load Following With a Biomass Gasifier </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Spanner 45 kWe <a href="http://spanner-joos-vergaser.de/joomla/" target="_blank">http://spanner-joos-vergaser.de/joomla/</a> This is intended for </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>base load >80% of capacity. Reportedly 150 in operation. 6,000-8,000 hours </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>of operation per year in several units. </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Proton Power 250-500 kWe <a href="http://www.protonpower.com/" target="_blank">http://www.protonpower.com/</a> First commercial </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>installation </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'><a href="http://www.protonpower.com/2012/07/24/wamplers-farm-sausage-chyp-system-pion" target="_blank">http://www.protonpower.com/2012/07/24/wamplers-farm-sausage-chyp-system-pion</a> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>eers/ </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>-----Original Message----- </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>From: Gasification [<a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org?">mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] On </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Behalf Of Thomas Koch </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:33 AM </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>To: Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Subject: Re: [Gasification] Mini Grid Load Following With a Biomass Gasifier </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Do you have any references to this gasifier? - and web page? </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><br><br><tt><o:p></o:p></tt></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________ </span></tt><span 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