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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Dear Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=tmiles@trmiles.com href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com">Tom Miles</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">'Discussion of biomass
pyrolysis and gasification'</A> ; <A title=Gasification@bioenergylists.org
href="mailto:Gasification@bioenergylists.org">Gasification@bioenergylists.org</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:06 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Gasification]HKG BIONEAR <A
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKbYDF9Hp0o&feature=player_embedded">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKbYDF9Hp0o&feature=player_embedded</A></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
liked that as well. Do we have any idea what “gasification” scheme they are
using? They say they have a gasifier and that they are making high hydrogen but
they carefully avoided showing any useful pictures of the reactor. We see a lot
of gauges and pipe fittings in these videos. </SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">#
It seems that they go out of their way to avoid telling how their "project"
works, and what it does. The Project may be as trivial as a "learning
experience" , OR it may have substance. The frequent insertion of the "Company
Name" hints that this might be an "Investor Relations Presentation" where the
success of the project would be determined simply by how much stock is sold.
Does anybody know anything about the Company, and the people behind
it?</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">#
Firstly, they have a market for "Waste Heat", for district heating, which could
make overall economics interesting. Secondly, they seem to be associated with a
wood products company, offering "dried wood chips" for sale. They don't tell the
fuel they are using ... it may be purchased fuel, OR it might be a waste
disposal product, which would markedly change the economics.</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">#
They don't say much about the extent of "HHO Production". Is it 10% or 90% of
project energy requirements? Electrolytic production of Hydrogen and Oxygen is
rather inefficient, and is very unlikely to be economically sensible when the
final products are simply intended for recombination for energy release.
Intermediate to small systems would be expected to have an electrolyzer
efficiency of about 70%, and power generation about 25%, for an overall
efficiency of about 18%. </SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">#
There are hints that the Project might be part of a larger integrated process.
What is done under these circumstances may be totally impractical as a
"stand-alone" technology. </SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Kevin</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Tom<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Gasification
[mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Thomas Koch<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:25
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification;
Gasification@bioenergylists.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Gasification] HKG
BIONEAR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKbYDF9Hp0o&feature=player_embedded<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I
love the last 10 seconds of the video</SPAN><SPAN lang=DA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
lang=DA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">This
plant is not designed to be repaired – it is designed to run
smoothly.</SPAN><SPAN lang=DA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Best
regards</SPAN><SPAN lang=DA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Thomas
Koch</SPAN><SPAN lang=DA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=DA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
lang=DA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"
lang=DA>Fra:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=DA>
Gasification [<A
href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</A>]
<B>På vegne af </B>kari käräjäoja<BR><B>Sendt:</B> 11. december 2013
21:00<BR><B>Til:</B> <A
href="mailto:Gasification@bioenergylists.org">Gasification@bioenergylists.org</A><BR><B>Emne:</B>
[Gasification] HKG BIONEAR <A
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKbYDF9Hp0o&feature=player_embedded">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKbYDF9Hp0o&feature=player_embedded</A></SPAN><SPAN
lang=DA><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=DA><A
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKbYDF9Hp0o&feature=player_embedded"
target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKbYDF9Hp0o&feature=player_embedded</A><BR
clear=all><BR clear=all><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=DA>VISITED TODAY THIS 4,2 MW ENERGY
station.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=DA>VERY IMPRESSIVE!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=DA>Made in Finland.
PROUDLY1 SEE WHY...<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=DA>-- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=DA>Best regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=DA>Kari
Käräjäoja<BR><BR><A href="mailto:ekobotnia@gmail.com"
target=_blank>ekobotnia@gmail.com</A><BR><BR><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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