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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Dr Karve:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I can guarantee that using producer gas derived from charcoal will work fine in an IC engine. It will run a gas engine directly but you may be better served with a modified diesel.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Phil Marsh<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Marshbros.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>250 569-7858<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Gasification [mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lloyd Helferty<br><b>Sent:</b> March-07-14 7:03 AM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gasification] using coal gas in i.c. engine<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>... Gasoline is "an unstable mixture" too ~ just light a match anywhere near it and you will soon find out. ;-)<br> But in this case [where we wish to use it for energy production], "unstable" is a <i>good</i> thing.<br><br>P.S. I assume that your last question about using "coal gas in an internal combustion engine" was rhetorical...<br><br>Regards,<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre> Lloyd Helferty, Engineering Technologist<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Principal, Biochar Consulting (Canada)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a href="http://www.biochar-consulting.ca">www.biochar-consulting.ca</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> 48 Suncrest Blvd, Thornhill, ON, Canada<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> 905-707-8754<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> CELL: 647-886-8754<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Skype: lloyd.helferty<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Steering Committee coordinator<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Canadian Biochar Initiative (CBI)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> CURRENTS, A working group of Science for Peace<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a href="http://www.scienceforpeace.ca/currents/">http://www.scienceforpeace.ca/currents/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> President, Co-founder & CBI Liaison, Biochar-Ontario<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> National Office, Canadian Carbon Farming Initiative (CCFI)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Organizing team member, 2013 N/A Biochar Symposium:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a href="http://www.carbon-negative.us/symposium">www.carbon-negative.us/symposium</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Member of the Don Watershed Regeneration Council (DWRC)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Manager, Biochar Offsets Group:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=2446475">http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=2446475</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Advisory Committee Member, IBI<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1404717">http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1404717</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=42237506675">http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=42237506675</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/biochar-ontario">http://groups.google.com/group/biochar-ontario</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a href="http://www.meetup.com/biocharontario/">http://www.meetup.com/biocharontario/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a href="http://www.biocharontario.ca">http://www.biocharontario.ca</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <a href="http://www.biochar.ca">www.biochar.ca</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>"Producing twice as much food with diminishing resources, without further loss of natural habitats and biodiversity and in a changing climate may be the greatest challenge facing humanity."<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> - Lloyd Helferty<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal>On 2012-10-24 6:13 AM, Anand Karve wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tar, a problem when using wood gas in an internal combustion engine, is automatically eliminated in the process of making charcoal.Charring does not require any input of external energy. Making coal gas from charcoal is also relatively simple. I was told that CO + H2 was an unstable mixture, but can one use freshly made coal gas in an internal combustion engine? <br>Yours<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal>A.D.Karve<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><br>-- <br>***<br>Dr. A.D. Karve<br>Trustee & Founder President, Appropriate Rural Technology Institute (ARTI)<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>