<div dir="ltr"> Dear list members <div>     </div><div><div>The integrated  Referigeration and Heat pump  for  waste energy    recovery using      biogas gas based ic engine  , direct mechanical  power  input for ic eng   is being developed to small milk producing industry  by unicamp , Brasil.   Tthe project Dr Paul here  correctly pointed out , as very important rural enegy demand  was well studied by this unicamp university  project Sao Paulo.</div>

<div>The master level reserach thesis  report page , one can get more detail  from  the  link given here below  </div>
<div><br></div><div>h<a>ttp://www.cetesb.sp.gov.br/userfiles/file/mudancasclimaticas/biogas/file/docs/artigos_dissertacoes/jordan.pd</a>f<br>
</div><div><br></div><div> The water-to-water heat pump was developed for simultaneous production of ice or water frozen </div><div>for cooling of the milk and hot water for cleaning and disinfection of the facilities and </div>


<div>equipment. For operation of the developed heat pump a gas converted engine motor was used, </div><div>allowing the use of the biogas produced by cow manure biodigestion, this provides a low cost </div><div>source of rewable energy, besides the adequate treatment of the animal wastes and the </div>


<div>production of bio-fertilizer of great quality. Three prototypes were assembled, two were </div><div>installed in the laboratory and one in the field, for tests with biogas. The obtained results </div><div>showed a potential of economy of the order of 92% when compared the refrigeration </div>


<div>equipment and the electric heater. When compared with electric energy, the potential of </div><div>economy of the heat pump still was in the order of 65%.</div></div><div><br></div><div>    The chacoal  , along with  produce gas ,syngas or pyrogas  based ic engine  can be used in stead of biogas. This  hotwater and cold  ice producing  sysrem are very energy efficient with more economical return fir rural area.</div>


<div>   the gree trancritical c02  comercial  heat pump  practiced in japon can be made possible also in serveral tropical country for fruit production .we are open to exchange details  the project  to make poosible  the optimium design to fruit poreservation in remote rural area in Brasil.</div>


<div>Thanking  Tom  bringing simple  boiler steam production alernative , is less expensive , less complex .However  small chp steam  can have battery  inaddtion to ice and chaxoal , making poosible more flexible coproducts </div>


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<br><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kelly,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">

<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Very helpful. If you are in an environment with high electricity prices is it worth considering getting to 40F with an absorption chiller and going further with the electro-mechanical chiller? Or does the capital cost kill it? <u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Put another way, would it be better to us your Proton unit (<a href="http://www.protonpower.com/" target="_blank">http://www.protonpower.com/</a> ) to generate electricity to drive an electromechanical chiller, or to use the heat to pre-chill and power to finish? How much refrigeration can you produce from the 250 kWe Proton using either method?<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Tom<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="1480e5784a5554a0__MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></a></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Gasification [mailto:<a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org" target="_blank">gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kelly Burnham<br>

<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 25, 2014 8:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gasification] Gasification or Pyrolysis + Absorption Chiller for Fruit<u></u><u></u></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p>Tom,<br>There might be an issue with getting down to 36F with an absorption machine.  We sold many steam fired abs chillers at Trane and the best we could do was 40F, which was better than the catalogue, so we were going lower than the manufacturer said we could.<u></u><u></u></p>

<p>We.sold a few hydro-cooler chillers for cherries here in the Okanagan and our target LWT was around 30F. We found the best way to get there was a.packaged air-cooled eletro-mechanical (vapour cycle) chiller.<u></u><u></u></p>

<p>My 2bits. <u></u><u></u></p><p>Kelly<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Aug 14, 2014 9:09 AM, "Tom Miles" <<a href="mailto:tmiles@trmiles.com" target="_blank">tmiles@trmiles.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>

<div><div><p class="MsoNormal">In the tropics there are needs for making char and cooling fruit. Has anyone coupled a small pyrolyzer or gasifier up with a boiler and an absorption chiller? What sizes and capacities make sense? We’re looking at a fuel input of 2-3 tpd. How much char can I make and what practical refrigeration capacity can I generate? I am assuming that the chiller can get down to about 36 F (2 C). The cooler the better. <u></u><u></u></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Tom<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">

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