<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Just to be clear, Mark I was discussing a world wide trend by the owners of the information. Choosing to disclose as their prerogative without involving a third party. There are hundreds if not thousands of opportunities out there from software engineering, educational courses(Harvard , MIT ) doctors,civil engineering etc etc who freely give without being solicited by anybody or agent. I believe this opportunity exist for personal development,sharing creativity so one can join the crowd and move mankind forward.</div><div>This is not disclosing confidential information. </div><div>H. </div><div><br>On 2014-09-07, at 10:40 PM, "Mark Elliott Ludlow" <<a href="mailto:mark@ludlow.com">mark@ludlow.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Whoa!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I was attempting to be ironic! I’ve never disclosed confidential information! That’s a breach of trust and ethics. It’s been done in the reverse, at harm, and I understand how despicable it is!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> Gasification [<a href="mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org">mailto:gasification-bounces@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Davis<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 07, 2014 9:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> Discussion of biomass pyrolysis and gasification<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gasification] [Stoves] The Atlas of Thermal Data (2009 - 2nd Edition) by Reed and Gaur is available<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Patents are a primitive version of open source but I personally prefer Henri's way.<br><br><br>Cheers,<br>Jeff<br><br><br>On 09/07/2014 10:22 PM, Henri Naths wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Tom, Mark, list members, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Free open source data and information is a ground breaking world wide trend which supports the principle, ( which also happens to be backed by scientific study). "It is better to give than it is to receive" <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I am a firm believer of this principle, it has proven itself over and over again.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> I am not a rich man for my ideas but consider myself better off. I have inspired many and I have also seen many prosper monetarily and otherwise because they chose to give. A contribution to the whole of humanity. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Amen to that. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Just saying, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Henri<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 2014-09-07, at 6:11 PM, "Mark Elliott Ludlow" <<a href="mailto:mark@ludlow.com">mark@ludlow.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;-webkit-tap-highlight-color:
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rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469);-webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469)"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Gee Thanks, Tom!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Of course you’re correct! I just leach on the creativity of others! In truth, I just don’t bother with the USPTO with most of my ideas. Who wishes to spend their life in litigation? Apple can sue Samsung, but whom could I sue? Going to market is the game-point! Besides, I have a bazillion patentable ideas; so what?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I do compose patent write-ups for others and am happy to do so for a fee. Beyond this, I really have very little interest in the USPTO.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">So sue me! (For what?)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Cheers,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Mark</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:linvent@aol.com">linvent@aol.com</a> [<a href="mailto:linvent@aol.com">mailto:linvent@aol.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 07, 2014 4:28 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:mark@ludlow.com">mark@ludlow.com</a>; <a href="mailto:gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org">gasification@lists.bioenergylists.org</a>; <a href="mailto:stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org">stoves@lists.bioenergylists.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gasification] [Stoves] The Atlas of Thermal Data (2009 - 2nd Edition) by Reed and Gaur is available</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I am not sure what trademark or copyright infringement is going on, but I consider it theft. I presume that Mr. Ludlow has never had a clever innovative idea in his life and only by taking other's can he make any mark. Wait until some day when he gets an idea and wants to make a living on it, which some folks do, and finds out that everyone wants it for free and his scorn is reversed. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Leland T. "Tom" Taylor</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Thermogenics Inc. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Gasification mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Gasification@bioenergylists.org">Gasification@bioenergylists.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/">http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Gasification mailing list</span><br><span></span><br><span>to Send a Message to the list, use the email address</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Gasification@bioenergylists.org">Gasification@bioenergylists.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org">http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/gasification_lists.bioenergylists.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>for more Gasifiers, News and Information see our web site:</span><br><span><a href="http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/">http://gasifiers.bioenergylists.org/</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>